In search of a quiet air compressor
comments (28) February 23rd, 2010 in BlogsI had high hopes for my Bostitch CAP1516 1.5HP air compressor when I bought it several years ago. This little compressor was quiet, compact, and extremely light -- perfect for trim jobs. Unfortunately, my model steadily deteriorated a little bit at a time. First the outer housing cracked, then a wire to the switch came loose and required a bit of invasive surgery to repair. Shortly after that, the housing finished cracking, and required a bit of crude wraps of tape to hold the whole thing together. When the seals went a few weeks back, causing the compressor to cycle on and off frequently to make up for the air it was leaking, I decided it was time to pull the plug on this tool for the last time.
Time to buy a new compressor. No problem, I'm the tool editor at Fine Homebuilding, after all. Problem is, in the era of online shopping, it's pretty hard to find out just how quiet a compressor is, and quiet is definitely something I'm looking for. And our most recent compressor article, though very thorough, didn't include decibel ratings.
So, I'm turning to all of you readers. Tell me about your compressors. Anybody using the small Senco PC1005? I've used it on a couple of jobs (borrowed one), but have no idea how it handles over the long haul?
How about the single tank DeWalt D55141? I'm tempted by it's slim design durable construction...
I've not seen or heard of anybody using the Makita MAC700, anybody have any experience on this one?
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Comments (28)
Next had a Senco 2000 (1999 model) that had plenty of air but which didn't like extension cords or cool weather and had lousy drain valves, regulator gauges and hose fitting and liked to walk around a lot.
Sold it after several years and got a Dewalt/Emglo 55155 ($350, I think). Much quieter but heavy with a stiff hose fittings and stiffer regulator . Built like a tank though, but no wheels and I got sick of lugging it around.
Picked up a Dewalt 2 gal 55141 (oiless) a few years ago for light duty stuff and it became my go-to compressor. Sold the 55155 and the Senco. The 55141 is about half the weight and I can light frame with it (just) but it struggles to keep up with a siding gun for Hardi. Pretty quiet and good air pressure, but I had to put an in-line water filter on it for cabinetry and trim as it spat a lot of moisture(main reason I'm getting rid of it) and you cannot talk over it indoors. Not a do-it-all compressor, but I managed to get by with it for a few years and my back thanked me.
I have never used or seen Thomas compressors, but no-one sells them round here so I gave up investigating.
Got a Rolair JC10 ($200) last week from a local dealer and, so far, am hugely impressed. At first I thought it was faulty because it made so little noise. You really have to (not) hear it to believe it. Oozes quality.
It is not quite as ergonomic as the 55141 and a little heavier but produces more air and I'm hoping it will fill the gap that I've had for 15 years between light, portable and quiet and a do-everything compressor. Very high quality fittings and guages. Easy enough to carry upstairs and no-one will complain if you use it in their home.
The grip on the handle needs an upgrade, and I've already fitted a 90 degree brass elbow so the pressure gauge points upwards so I can see it without tipping the compressor on it's side, but it's definitely a keeper. Time will tell if it does all I need. It's not a shop or two man compressor though.
One thing to note... this, and most of Rolair's small compressors are 100% made in China, not the US.
Getting a Makita MAC2400 tomorrow. Got a great price so couldn't say no. It will replace my 55155 and live in my shop most of the time(hopefully) but will be there if the Rolair can't keep up (fingers crossed - I have high hopes for that little thing). I've seen several Makitas on job sites and framers seem to love them! They are extremely well built, and quieter than you could wish for, for the air you get.
A good compressor (for me) is occasionally the difference between a good day and a frustrating day on the job but sadly, there are too many shoddy compressors on the market. I'm hoping this JC10 lives up to my expectations. I know the Makita will.
Posted: 11:07 pm on December 16th
The Rol-Air JC10 super quite compressor looks to be around $200, is oil-less, weighs 40bs, is made in the USA, 2.5gal tank, puts out 2.35cfm @90PSI and reportedly runs at 60DB!
I have a Makita MAC2400 which has been great for the last 2 or 3 years but is a bit of a beast to lug around. I'm very tempted to pick up the Rolair as a smaller more portable second compressor.
Posted: 5:09 pm on December 16th
If you can overlook a greater weight (53 lb, but more compact than a twin-tank) & price for the sake of quiet, the Thomas AIR-PAC Model T-30HP is wonderfully quiet at 74 dB, and very long-lasting. Our worker's coop has used it for many years, the tank shows zero sign of rust, and everyone appreciates the lower noise level.
Posted: 9:25 am on December 3rd
Posted: 11:35 am on May 13th
I've owned the Senco PC1010 for around 5 years and the motor/pressure switch went out after about 3 years of use. I have yet to take it in for service and been relying on the Dewalt ever since.
According to the Makita website the MAC700 runs at 80db which is louder than my 2 gallon Dewalt. Sounds like too much for a 1 gallon compressor.
Posted: 9:11 pm on March 20th
This topic would be good for a product shootout. There are several vendors that make something smaller but since there is no standardization about noise measurements, what you may get may be loud. I think that FHB mag should devote some print space to such a beast. Everything from Dewalt to Makita to Craftsman and in between. Limit the upper price range to something like $400. If I was going to run a test like this, I think at a minimum I would want something for trim jobs and something that could handle minor framing capacity. Minor framing in my mind is putting up a 2x4 wall as a DIYer. You are nut running the compressor flat out as in a production setting but something where you are using a half dozen nails every so often. And when you tabulate a chart, you have sound level at 'x' feet away, product weight, recovery time, types of guns it can supply w/o destroying the compressor, cost, etc.
dennis
Posted: 12:20 pm on March 15th
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Posted: 2:43 am on March 3rd
Only drawback - heavy as heck. but a well made long lasting tool.
Posted: 1:22 pm on March 2nd
Only drawback - heavy as heck. but a well made long lasting tool.
Posted: 1:21 pm on March 2nd
I certainly could use lighter but I'm leary of the 1.7 cfm of the Thomas. The fact that it's rated for continuous run is impressive.
I agree, there's a big difference between 69 and 80 db. How does the Thomas compare to the Prime Air noise-wise?
Posted: 5:48 am on March 2nd
DP
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Posted: 8:42 pm on March 1st
I have the Senco 1010; very quiet, but certainly not continuous duty, and not a lot of capacity.
I also have the Prime Source dual tank, I don't have the model number handy; small and pretty quiet compressor, very durable, and enough capacity, but fairly heavy at 41 pounds, and also a little awkward to carry with one hand.
But, I am very happy with the Thomas; Quick recovery, Continuous Duty, 27 pounds, Very quiet, (and contrary to the previous comment, there is a significant difference between 69 and 80 decibels). I guess it depends on what you place a value on. Depending on your level of use, will you ever have to replace it, given the continuous duty rating? Are there any other compressors that have that?
Posted: 8:39 pm on March 1st
Downside is that it is freakishly heavy for its size.
Posted: 6:46 pm on March 1st
BTW, it's not listed among the 15 compressors at the link given above. I tried to post a review there but no success for that reason.
Posted: 5:23 pm on March 1st
I think that is the compressor Gary Katz used to recommend. You can probably contact him through Breaktime or on his website.
- Kit
Posted: 9:57 am on March 1st
I'd like to hear from someone who has tried the Rol-air FC1250LS3. There's some confusion on the Rol-air site as to exact specs but I have an email from a Rol-air manager that tells me it's 45lbs, CFM Delivered is 2.9 @ 100 PSI and I think I remember the db level being 73.
The Makita 700 looks good but it's a little heavier and louder than I think I need.
The Thomas is nice and light but for me 1.7 delivered CFM is just too little and twice the price is too much....
John
Posted: 9:06 am on March 1st
Its an old 1950's Servex 15cfm. The sort of thing you use to see at a gas station. 415v, three phase. I was a bit concerned at what it was going to sound like.....
Turns out, it sounds like a chicken and about as loud.
Bwook bwook bwook bwook.....
Posted: 4:14 am on March 1st
I have had the Makita since moving down here. The thing just oozes quality and it's really quiet. It can easily keep up with two trimmers and should be able to keep up with the kind of framing you would be doing on your remodels as long as it's not shear nailing. Did I mention it's really quiet? Two down sides: it is heavy and it is tippy when riding in the truck. You'll want to bungie it to something.
During a multi-month job where I couldn't leave tools on-site and I was having some back issues, I purchased a Thomas T625HD. I like it a lot also. It's very quiet and very light. I've had some minor repairs to do. A hose started leaking and the handle was broken in shipping, but the people at Thomas are great and got me parts for free very quickly. I believe these nice machines are made right there in the Midwest, too. Down sides? Not much air for blasting stuff off at the end of the day, though it will still keep up with two finish nailers. It's also very tippy in the truck, though they have since come out with a squat model.
Now, the Makita mostly stays in the shop and the Thomas is the daily user.
You couldn't go wrong with either of these quality tools as far as I am concerned.
- Kit
Posted: 10:35 am on February 26th
I just looked into the specs on the Makita and Thomas - the Makita runs at 80 db, and the Thomas at 69. In the world of decibels, that's not all that much of a difference. For instance, a normal conversation is about 60 db, while a vacuum cleaner is about 70 db.
Posted: 10:39 am on February 24th
Posted: 7:25 am on February 24th
But I have not use the Thomas what's the $$ on that one?
Posted: 3:54 pm on February 23rd
Will
Posted: 11:15 am on February 23rd
Of course it costs more than lesser tools, but I'm sure you can afford it, Justin.
http://www.thomasairpac.com/products/airpac/airpac_electric/T-635HD/t-635hd.jsp
Posted: 11:11 am on February 23rd
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