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16 ga. for Hardi Soffit?

blownonfuel | Posted in Construction Techniques on September 18, 2009 07:37am

Would 16ga.nails be too small to hold up Hardi soffit? What do you guys use?

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    ToolFreakBlue | Sep 18, 2009 09:18pm | #1

    16 ga. brads would have a tendency to pull through the soffit (Hardi or otherwise)

    if it was a narrow (under 12") and trapped by a plowed fascia (at roof edge) and and a freeze board (at the wall) you might get a way with it, but in that case probably not needed anyway.

    I use a coil siding nailer now with ring shanks. Prior to that I used a framing nailer with 2 3/8" ring shanks. If I miss the framing it will blow right through, so I try to be careful.

    TFB (Bill)
    1. blownonfuel | Sep 18, 2009 09:39pm | #2

      Thanks Bill. Actually the fascia is plowed and there will be a freeze board so I guess i'm okay? The soffit is about 20" wide.

      1. frammer52 | Sep 19, 2009 01:46am | #3

        I always use narrow crown staples.

        1. Treetalk | Sep 19, 2009 03:02am | #4

          On the same track is there a trick for nailing aluminum fascia so that it doesnt ripple? Seems the temp. differential during course of the day can make go from taut to ripples.It was pretty hot when we nailed the stuff im talking about.

          1. frammer52 | Sep 19, 2009 04:22pm | #5

            Yes there is.

            I have found that if you face nail you have lots of ripples.  The way around this is to put the facia up, behind the drip edge and nail the underneath portion to the soffit.  Every 2-4' is sufficient.  Then only one nail in the face at the overlap!

        2. blownonfuel | Sep 19, 2009 08:34pm | #6

          Thanks. I don't have a crown stapler so i'm stuck with the 16ga. Is galvy nails or staples a must for Hardi?

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            Dam_inspector | Sep 19, 2009 10:45pm | #8

            Now you've got an excuse to buy a stapler. See how things work out?I've found 18ga staples sometimes have a hard time penetrating hardi products though. My 16 ga Bostitch medium crown would have no trouble, and it has adjustable depth, but the staples I have are just electro galvanized, which just possibly might be OK if they were not exposed.I think I would just predrill and nail it up with hot dip galvanized or stainless nails myself.

          2. frammer52 | Sep 19, 2009 11:03pm | #9

            galvy nails or staples a must for Hardi?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

            Yep!

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            Sphere | Sep 19, 2009 11:23pm | #10

            Staples like the Bostitch narrow crown are 18ga. and IMO too light to use for hardie. And the electro galv is basically useless for cementitious work.

            You want Stainless or Monel ( Floyd Tools sells the stainless fastners I use) but that all said, I'd not use 16 ga nails either unless stainless.

            I refuse to use fastners that can stain or not out last the material being put up.

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          4. blownonfuel | Sep 21, 2009 09:39pm | #11

            Thanks Guys. I'll see how it goes. Is it just my neck of the woods or do your lumber/hardware suppliers look at you funny when you ask for stainless nails also?

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            Dam_inspector | Sep 21, 2009 10:57pm | #12

            Just order them and avoid the laughter and ridicule at the yahd. They don't stock them here.

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            Dam_inspector | Sep 21, 2009 10:59pm | #13

            16 ga straight brads here, they have angled too for those few angled guns. http://www.floydtool.com/brad_nail.htm#sp16

          7. blownonfuel | Sep 22, 2009 03:09pm | #14

            Thanks

          8. frammer52 | Sep 22, 2009 03:27pm | #15

            They don't look at me funny, but then I don't ask, buy them online>G<

          9. blownonfuel | Sep 22, 2009 03:58pm | #16

            Will do .

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    Matt | Sep 19, 2009 09:16pm | #7

    If you must use 16 ga nails cross nail it by driving 2 nails close together at opposing angles.  20" wide is quite heavy and those 16 ga nails heads aren't very big at all.  Narrow crown staplers are pretty cheap - you can get a half decient one (depth of drive adjustment) for around $100.  They are great for fastening most types of thin sheet material, and they hold really well.

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