Was wondering what was meant by “back banding” trim. I read in an article about back banding door casements so oversized chair rail would not stick out beyond existing door casements. Can someone explain this concept to me and tell me what situatons you would use this, and how it is performed? Thanks
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like putting a 1x2 on edge around the casing..adds depth for the profile of say wainscot or ext. siding. A real nice touch when used judiciously.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations.
Backbanding is actually the name of a piece of trim that one would add to the back of another door trim. It adds depth. The profile looks like an L sort of.
I'd add that it's something that's much more commonly seen in houses with some history. It isn't used much for our modern cookie cutter homes. Backbanding makes sense sometimes for more than aesthetic reasons - it's easier to get the thin stock of the banding to conform tight to an uneven wall, like plaster can be, than solid 1x stock. If the wall is particularly bad, it's also easier to scribe something thin like that than try to relieve the back of the whole jamb leg.
"The child is grown / The dream is gone / And I have become / Comfortably numb " lyrics by Roger Waters
What Sphere said. Go to lumber yard to their trim/molding section, you should find some examples there. It is called, not coincidently, backband molding. Cross-section is 'L' shaped with one leg attached to the outer edge of casing, the other leg lying flat on the face of the casing. It is used a lot to dress up plain 1x casings that are butted at the head. Backband is mitered, giving more of a picture frame detail. You'll find more examples of it in older houses than new, for whatever reason...
Usually economics.
And, if you don't want to pay the ridiculous prices for that L shaped moulding, get out the old table saw and rip some appropriately sized rectangular material, ease two edges (the narrow side) with a 1/8" or so round over bit and nail it up to the outside of the installed 1x or 5/4 casing. Same effect.
I got about 1,000 lf of offcut from my local mill shop for free (measures 3/4 x 1 3/4 x 16') and it's been great for zipping out small mouldings and trim work.
here's a pic.
Jeff
Buck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
Could ya get any more paint on that trim, Jeff??
house built in 1902 ......
guess it builds up after a coupla years?
I'll relay yer comments to the resident paint prep guy ... aka .... Cathy.
maybe she needs to hear .. scrap then sand ... from more than one person?
You got one of those wife things ... U know of what I speak ......
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
Here's a pic of some backbands I did recently. Don't ask about the wall on the left!
Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
Nice looking work, but whats with that wall on the left?
Doug
Heh-heh- I KNEW posting that pic, which was the best "Backbanding" picture I happened to have, would prompt this question!
Well, the client wanted to re-do her kids room, with new walls, windows, etc. Here's a shot of the original wallpaper, so you can see why. But there were other big picture considerations, like new windows all around, new siding, an addition and so on in the plans. So while doing the interior was proceding in the wrong order, I did it anyway, as she was strongly desirous of getting his room under control. I convinced her to wait on the outside wall until the windows were in, to avoid ripping out a whole wall of work.
(Sorry you asked??)
"Before"Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
I think I've seen that pic before ...
as a matter a fact ...
I think I have it sitting in "my pics' from when I stole it the first time!
Very nice ... mind if I use that sometime?
(there .. does that make the stealing legal?)
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
Sure, go ahead, but just don't take credit! But use this one instead, as it's a better shot of the wall, (Althought it's marginally worse in showing the backband).
Thanks for the kind words guys!Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
OK, hit the wrong button, and the pic never made it to the post.
So, "Justins room" is another view,
and just so you all don't think I never complete a project, here's one of the bathrooms I redid in that particular house. "Guest bath, 20mm," or something like that.Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
not gonna use the pic ...
just the "design idea"
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
Thats totally cool, let me know if you want more pics, and what details and I'll shoot 'em!
Jake Gulick
[email protected]
CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT