FHB Logo Facebook LinkedIn Email Pinterest Twitter Instagram Plus Icon Close Icon Navigation Search Icon Navigation Search Icon Arrow Down Icon Video Guide Icon Article Guide Icon Modal Close Icon Guide Search Icon Skip to content
Subscribe

In every issue you'll find...

  • Expert insights on techniques and principles
  • Unbiased tool reviews
  • Step-by-step details to master the job
  • Field-tested advice and know-how
Subscribe Now!
Subscribe
  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House
  • Podcast
  • Join
  • Log In
Subscribe

Discussion Forum

Discussion Forum

Basement I Joist

Scott0223 | Posted in General Discussion on April 13, 2021 02:21pm

I am trying to install an LED retro fit recessed light in my basement but the only true access I have to the ceiling box that holds the light fixture currently there, is to cut through the I-Joist so I can remove the ceiling box. 
My question is, how much of the particle board in the I-Joist can/should I remove?  I believe I need enough access in order to pull out the nails which hold the box in.  Also to clarify, this is for an unfinished basement but this light fixture is at the end of my stairs and the ceiling for that has been finished, so I do not want to cut into and ruin the ceiling.

Any advise is welcomed, thanks!

Reply

Replies

  1. Greg_E | Apr 13, 2021 03:12pm | #1

    Find the manufacturer of your I joist and look online for the "allowable holes" sheet. They provide instructions for where and what size of holes you can cut without compromising the rated strength.

    I think those are from Louisiana Pacific
    https://lpcorp.com/resources/product-literature/technical-guides/lp-solidstart-i-joists-residential-technical-guide-canada

    1. Scott0223 | Apr 13, 2021 03:45pm | #2

      That is exactly who the manufacturer is. I have LPI 20Plus with an 11 7/8 depth. So I want to make sure I am reading the chart you sent correctly, if you don't mind. Please excuse my ignorance, I am a DIY'er and not exactly knowledgeable in these details. The clear span is 18', with 2' from the end support to the center of the hole I would like to make. By reading the chart, it notes I can make an 8" hole up to 4'1" from that end support. Would you agree?

  2. catmandeux | Apr 13, 2021 05:10pm | #3

    Just clarifying your wording:
    The charts give you the MINIMUM distance that a particular hole size must be away from the support. The 8" hole must be AT LEAST 4'1" from the closest edge of the support.

    For a hole 2' from the end support, maximum hole size is 4"

  3. firedudec56 | Apr 16, 2021 09:14am | #4

    there's are better LED fixtures for you that should consider using - you only need to get power to the box and the driver fits inside the ceiling box or inside the void space of the framing -
    check with either your local supply house or even the big box stores for LEDs that connect directly to the ceiling box or have "wings" to attach to the drywall for support
    looking at your picture, looks like your ceiling box may have 2 screws in the top that hold on a "clamp" - take out the screws and the box should drop out - then you can use the LEDs I mentioned earlier
    much easier to mess with the box than messing up your framing
    good luck

  4. firedudec56 | Apr 16, 2021 09:19am | #5

    hopefully I'm not breaking any rules with this but you could use something like this, just cut out the existing box (drill a hole and hold onto a hack saw blade to cut it out), connect power to the driver and you're done

    https://www.cooperlighting.com/global/brands/halo/hlb6-led-6-microedge-direct-mount-downlight.html

Log in or create an account to post a comment.

Sign up Log in

Become a member and get full access to FineHomebuilding.com

Video Shorts

Categories

  • Business
  • Code Questions
  • Construction Techniques
  • Energy, Heating & Insulation
  • General Discussion
  • Help/Work Wanted
  • Photo Gallery
  • Reader Classified
  • Tools for Home Building

Discussion Forum

Recent Posts and Replies

  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
View More Create Post

Up Next

Video Shorts

Featured Story

Forming Foundation Walls

In the first episode of FHB House Kansas, Travis and Joe of Catalyst Construction walk through details of their foundation walls.

Featured Video

Video: Build a Fireplace, Brick by Brick

Get an overview of the process of creating a traditional-style fireplace that burns well and meets current building codes from experienced mason Mike Mehaffey.

Related Stories

  • Podcast 486: PRO TALK With Builder and Remodeler Mason Lord of HVP in Kent, CT
  • Get Stunning Views With Folding Glass Doors
  • Keep Craft Alive Podcast: Episode 20, Ian Schwandt, TDS Custom Construction
  • Step-by-Step Install Prehung Exterior Doors

Highlights

Fine Homebuilding All Access
Fine Homebuilding Podcast
Tool Tech
Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20

"I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." - M.K.

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

BOOKS, DVDs, & MERCH

Shop the Store
  • Outdoor Projects
    Buy Now
  • 2021 Fine Homebuilding Archive
    Buy Now
  • Pretty Good House
    Buy Now
  • Code Check Building 4th Edition
    Buy Now
  • Shop the Store

Fine Homebuilding Magazine

  • Issue 309 - Aug/Sept
    • 10 Steps to Install Crown Molding on Cabinets
    • How to Get Sturdy Walls Without OSB
    • Choosing the Right Construction Tape for the Job
  • Issue 308 - July 2022
    • Pretty Good House Book Excerpt: Copper Farmhouse
    • 10 Dos and Don'ts for Electric In-Floor Heat
    • A Sturdy Rail for Outdoor Stairs
  • Issue 307 - June 2022
    • How to Raise a Post-Frame Home
    • Trimming Deck Stairs
    • Evolving an Energy-Efficient Envelope
  • Issue 306 - April/May 2022
    • Framing Stairs to an Out-of-Level Landing
    • Building a Zero-Energy Home for Less
    • Good-Looking and Long-Lasting Traditional Gutters
  • Issue 305 - Feb/March 2022
    • The Steady Surge in Residential Solar
    • The Fine Homebuilding Interview: William B. Rose
    • How Good Is Your Air Barrier?

Fine Homebuilding

Follow

  • twitter
  • facebook
  • instagram
  • pinterest

Newsletter

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Membership & Magazine

  • Online Archive
  • Start Free Trial
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Magazine Renewal
  • Gift a Subscription
  • Customer Support
  • Privacy Preferences

Taunton Network

  • Green Building Advisor
  • Fine Woodworking
  • Fine Gardening
  • Threads
  • About
  • Contact
  • Advertise
  • Careers
  • Copyright
  • Terms of Use
  • Site Map
  • Do not sell my information
  • Privacy Policy
  • Accessibility
  • California Privacy Rights

© 2022 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved.

X
X
This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Pressing the Escape (ESC) button will close the modal and bring you back to where you were on the page.

Main Menu

  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Video
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Reader Projects
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Account

  • Log In
  • Join

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Popular Topics

  • Kitchens
  • Business
  • Bedrooms
  • Roofs
  • Architecture and Design
  • Green Building
  • Decks
  • Framing
  • Safety
  • Remodeling
  • Bathrooms
  • Windows
  • Tilework
  • Ceilings
  • HVAC

Magazine

  • Current Issue
  • Past Issues
  • Magazine Index
  • Subscribe
  • Online Archive
  • Author Guidelines

All Access

  • Member Home
  • Start Free Trial
  • Gift Membership

Shop the Store

  • Books
  • DVDs
  • Taunton Workshops

More

  • FHB Ambassadors
  • Reader Projects
  • Podcast
  • Customer Support

Account

  • Log In
  • Join

Newsletter

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Follow

  • twitter
  • facebook
  • instagram
  • pinterest

Join All Access

Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features.

Start Your Free Trial

Subscribe

FHB Magazine

Start your subscription today and save up to 70%

Subscribe

We hope you’ve enjoyed your free articles. To keep reading, become a member today.

Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine.

Start your FREE trial

Already a member? Log in