I would like to install 2 bathroom sinks, counter length will be
6′. How far apart do I have to install them, and what would be a good
height for the counter??
Thanks for your help
Abe
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These guidelines from the NKBA (National Kitchen and Bath Association) should be helpful:
"The minimum clearance from the centerline of the lavatory to any side wall is 15" (38cm).
The minimum clearance between two bowls in the lavatory center is 30" (76cm), centerline to centerline. When using lavatories that are 30" (76cm) wide or greater, the minimum distance of 30" (76cm) between centerlines of the two bowls must be increased to allow proper installation of each lavatory.
When more than one vanity is included, one may be 30"-34" (76cm-86cm) high and another at 34"-42" (86cm-107cm) high. Vanity height should fit the user(s)."
"A completed home is a listed home."
Personal opinion ... you can't put two sinks far enough apart on the same counter. Nothing worse than getting up in the morning and going to "your" sink, while your S.O. is dredging up oysters at the other one. Put a wing wall right in the middle, or put each sink on its own vanity in different locations.
I've had dbl sinks for five years and I dont think MSO and myself ever used them at the same time. I like my privacy while I hock Louies...LOL. Its kinda like....would you have two toilets next to one another? Never understood the dbl sink concept even though I did install one in my lst house. Spose it has to do with filling a large counter/vanity...personally, I'd rather use the other side for a java machine
Be well
Namaste
AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Me to. Doing service call I have been in quite a few homes and seen lots of bathrooms. My estimate is that not even 10% of the second sinks get used regularly.
In fact it is not all that uncommon for the second sinks to go unused for so long that the traps dry out. I found this out when I dropped a small tool down a drain one day. I took out the 'P' trap to retrieve it and was expecting to get wet. The trap was dry. The HO, who had handed me a nearby bucket, heard my surprise and asked what the problem was. I explained the situation and suggested that she run a little water occasionally.
She asked what that would do. I explained my limited understanding of traps and sewer gas. She wondered if this was the smell the couple couldn't track down. I left it a noncommittal "maybe".
After that I started, when I worked in a customers bathroom, pointing my flashlight down the drain and taking a peek. While I have never seen a single sink trap dry I have seen many of the second sinks traps dry.
My conclusion is that while it is a romantic notion that a couple would use a a bathroom at the same time it seldom happens. The availability of second, and sometimes third, bathrooms may account for much of this. The few double sinks that seem to get used regularly appear to be serving large or extended families with numerous children. One I saw was humorous. A couple with eight children, five by blood, and live in grandparents sharing a bath and a half. I got there early in the morning. Air traffic controllers could learn something from the scheduling involved in running these bathrooms.
In a few marriages, double sinks are a relatively inexpensive way to maintain marital harmony. You see, some spouses (who shall here go unnamed) never learned how to rinse out a sink. Ten years of nagging does not improve the situation - I won't say how I know that. "His" and "her" sinks are a whole lot cheaper than a divorce.
Now, the java machine in the bathroom idea is fine living indeed. That could completely eliminate the need for marital counseling in our world. Do you have to carry it to the kitchen for cleaning every day? Does the carafe fit under your bathroom sink faucet? Do you grind beans in the bathroom, or use pre-ground? Details, man, I need details.
(Stumbling away from her monitor, she pours herself another cup of the hot, life sustaining brew and her head begins to de-fog.)"A completed home is a listed home."
Lisa
Why would you need to wash the carafe in the kitchen? Doesnt the one sink have any water....or for that matter, the tub? All the money you save on another sink you could buy one of them $200 coffee makers that grinds and brews all in one machine with a timer set for 5:30 AM....c'mon woman, you sound groggy still. And throw the grinds outta the window into your flower bed.makes wondeful compost and if yer hubby won't clean the sink then throw him outta the window right behind the grinds....lol..he may take a while to decompose though.
aIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Just a suggestion from a husband who is admittedly "well trained". Nagging aint the answer. My better half has come to realize that the amount of nagging required to have me do something is in direct proportion to how long it actually takes me to do it. You convinced him to marry you, I`m assuming, with little or no nagging. Think about how you managed that, and perhaps apply similar tactics. If a woman can convince a man that he needs no other....a clean bathroom sink should be cinch! ; )J. D. Reynolds
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and we all know what yer talking bout' Mr. Reynolds :)It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
"You convinced him to marry you" - nope, 'twas the other way around. ;-)
That was twenty one years ago. I have long since learned - what's a dirty sink or an empty beer bottle between friends? Nope, not trying to change him any more. Just enjoying him as he is, and glad that two sinks is all it takes to keep the peace.
"A completed home is a listed home."
How far apart depends greatly on how large the sinks are.
"Typical" height of installation is 31"....not set in stone. If uses are taller than the "average" person....raise `em up a bit....shorter?....lower a tad.
J. D. Reynolds
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"DO IT RIGHT, DO IT ONCE"
Counter height - I put the vanity at 34" (instead of 31 or 32") in my last house and LOVED it every morning (not so far to lean down) - I'm just 5'10".
Does anyone remember the SNL "Love Commode"? It was a 'his and her's' potty where 'those who are so in love that they can't bear to be apart, during that most intimate of daily rituals, can be together.'
The scary thing about some of their phony commercials is that maybe someone out there will think it is really a great idea!
I still love "Litter Critters"....think thats the title....kids recycling cat litter to use as molding clay. Funny, and gross, as all get out!!!J. D. Reynolds
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"The scary thing about some of their phony commercials is that maybe someone out there will think it is really a great idea!"
It's been done. Last year, I had a blueprint with "his 'n hers" commodes. They were facing each other, about 6' apart across the bathroom.
That's the first and last time I've seen that.If my lips are on fire for you, could I extenguish the flames in your cleavage?
It's been done. Last year, I had a blueprint with "his 'n hers" commodes. They were facing each other, about 6' apart across the bathroom.
Bossman
I've seen kinkier then that.but thats damn kinky....would love to have been a fly on the wall in that house........maybe not.
aIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I just think there are certain things that need not be and that would be the two commode thing! I just can't imagine. I don't even want someone coming in and talking to be! much less sitting with me. That is just too much:-)
By the way this has nothing to do with sinks...but do any of you have the set up that has the stereo/tv/dvd spa? You know the tub deal? I can't remember who makes that one. I have seen this and Lars put one in. UNREAL. I like the music, but I can't imagine watching tv while trying to relax in the tub.Tamara
I was in a house recently...about 15K sq ft, in Greenwich, CT, that had the double water closet thing. They were about 12 feet apart, in their own "phone booths", flanking a spa/whirlpool tub. Each had a door, but the interesting thing was that they each had a window opening that faced each other across the spa!
I marveled at it every time I was in the house as it was being built, until finally I found that glass had been installed...and was frosted! Phew! Still pretty unique though!
(We joked amongst ourselves before the glass was installed at what the conversation between Mrs. and Mr. might be ....but I should probably not get into that here....!)
jake
His n hers commodes - sounds like someone sit down one night on the commode only to find the lid up. My ex wife punched the snot out of me one night like 3 or 4 oclock after a startling experience on the toilet. All she needed to do was check before sitting...
Well, you have this sink full of hot water. You wet down the face with this. (I use a wash cloth to soak the beard a bit with the hot water.) You lather up the beard and commence shaving. Razor fills up with shaving cream & whisker cuttings. If you have that second sink, the faucet is running and you rinse off the razor there. The water in the first sink is clear for rinsing off the face. A good bathroom sink might be like some kitchen sinks that have the little rinse sink (maybe 10" square) right along side.
The second toilet is a lot more useful than the second sink! (I wouldn't rinse my razor there, however.) :)
Yet another complication that I avoid by shaving in the shower.
Having two small vanities separated by some kind of structure allows you to do his and hers heights ... probably well appreciated.
Size of sinks has nothing to do with nothing...45" centers is the minimum, less and Mrs. 'Snort punches me out when I'm flossing....she's a bitch! It's okay, I can fix it!
Reminds me of a machinist friend of mine years ago who said, "You know the honeymoon is over when you're shaving and your wife comes in and sits down next to you to take a %#@&."
Are you suggesting that men and women vary in height? That also supposes differences. Inequalities perhaps as one may be taller than the other. Am I hearing you correctly? Are you, in a backhanded way, implying that between the two sexes one is somehow superior to the other?
Well thats it for me....I`m done on this forum! I have put up with enough! You can only push a person so far! Sexism cannot be condoned. Where do I report this?!
Unless of course thats not what you meant.... J. D. Reynolds
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"DO IT RIGHT, DO IT ONCE"
The only time I have ever seen two sinks used in the same bathroom is when the vanities are on two separate sides of the bathroom, like in a large Master Bath. I figure the reason is if two people have there "own" space and the two are divided they are more likely to use both sinks with two sinks on the same counter one will always get used more then the other,
Not really relevant but thought I would throw it out there
toilet seat up, toilet seat down (man's convenience vs. woman's convenience)
what a silly issue.
I was raised in a house "where the lid has a purpose - to be CLOSED" and when I visit a household where the toilet is left "open" (or when guests do that in my house) I still feel like it is 'dirty'. Who would want to be around the thing when it is open, remember what goes in there!
"It has a lid, use it."
end of issue.
(in my mind anyway)
:o)
Norm you are right on!!!!!!!! Boy I think I am going to print it and put if above the commode.
By the way to you men that say look before you sit... as many of you know when getting up in the middle of the night you are half asleep, thus you don't always look. I tell you what why don't you all put the seats up. Then come back at about 3 in the morning. Now sit down!!!!!!!!! How does that feel for a wake up call:-) ?Tamara
Mom
First off.....at three in the morning I SIT..Too tired to stand and drain myself so I do as youz woman do when you'll drain YERSELVES. As a "very"thoughtful man I always drop the seat yet my woman cleans the bowl and leaves it open after she does this. She does this all the time and...yep...at three in the A.M I've dropped my sleepy booty on that cold rim and almost fall in......ROFLO.....nooooo, not that funny so I understand.....My woman did that one too many times in this new crib of mine soooooooooo....before I went to sleep the other night I stretched some Saran Wrap over the whole porclin bowl. Well SHEEEEE went to drain HERSELF in the middle of the nightand was swimming in.........heh heh..She did eventually laugh.
Be well
Namaste'
AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
a couple of points lol
1, I see the purpose of a double sink in the bathroom, just my experience that most of the time unless the cabinets are seperate walls or ohterwise seperated one becomes the primary and other is hardly used.
2, The issue of toilet seat up or down, this is why a urinal in home baths should become standard, except in the case of that 3 am sit down draining.
3, as far as something to post above your toilet, I saw the funniest quote in a mens bar bathroom..."In life, what lies ahead of you and behind you is of no importance to what lies in your hand"
"....a urinal in home baths should become standard......"
I agree. But they don't seem to have caught on. I really thought the "mister Mizer" urinals would becone common, but I've never seen one, or heard of one being installed.
Any of you use them?If the music's too loud, you're too old.
It is intersting to me that some people would rather argue about whether the seat should be up or down instead of just using the lid and keeping it closed.
What is the lid for?
I think it is gross to look at the open toilet when it is not in use.
Ah, well, I guess some people would rather have conflict than solution.
"but it is more convenient for ME"
What the heck is so hard about opening and closing the thing to use it? Is it too hard to flush too? Is it too hard to walk all the way over to the bathroom to relieve yourself? Maybe it would be better just to go on the couch.
Boss......I wont say the toilet seat issue is "anal" cause...well.....uh.....Ask your all womona what they think bout this gentle quote.
SOMETIMESSometimes ... when you cry ... no one sees your tears...... Sometimes... when you are in pain... no one sees your hurt...Sometimes... when you are worried.... no one sees your stress...... Sometimes ... when you are! happy ... no one sees your smile ......
It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I dunno about this seat issue. My take is this; if it's not the middle of the night, I'm gonna sit down so I can read. If it's the middle of the night, I'm gonna sit down cause I'm too tired to stand. I only stand in public places. So my wife doesn't have to worry about the seat being left up except when I'm cleaning in a hurry.
My wife and I are eagerly awaiting our new bathroom with two sinks. We have to leave at the same time in the morning, and we are always both looking to use the sink at the same time.
I gather that all of those who don't see the need for two sinks have some sort of schedule, or else their SO doesn't need to go to work at the same time. Or, they don't shave or brush their teeth, either of which is an ugly proposition. Remember that episode of "Mad About You", where Paul spit on Jamie's head, because she was out of sync on the toothbrushing?