I have a customer that brought me a “Design” for their bath remodel, and it simply isn’t going to work, so I’m trying to come up with one that will.
I have a space that is 7′ wide and 7’7″ deep. The would like two sinks, a bathtub/shower and a stool, plus storage.
Their orginal design has a bay-window along the back wall, I think the bay has to go.
So, does anyone have any layout’s they’ve done for a similiar sized bath with 2 sinks, a stool, and a bath?
any help would be appreciated
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Can you sketch a floor plan that shows the windows, doors, and existing plumbing (if any)?
There should be enough room, but it will be tight - lol.
I need to scan them in, I'll try to remember to do that tom.
Is one of the 7/7 walls available for the tub/shower? If so, you can use something like this Kohler 54" tub.
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Back the wet end up to a plumbing wall of 2x4s, and you'll have enough room for the toilet in the adjacent space.
If your only wall for the tub is one of the 7-footers, you are out of luck. I don't know of tubs shorter than this one, that can also work under a shower. Kohler's "Greek" tub is a 48-incher, but it is tall and deep, meant as a soaker. It would be inconvenient as a shower tub.
Gene,
I thought of a 54" tub, but IMO they're worthless as a tub and if that's the case I'd rather go with a shower only. Though in this situation it might have to be a viable option.
I'll play with it a little more tomorrow.
Thanks
why not just build what the client design and let them live wih the bad design
you're a funny guy baggSometimes you have to tweak the design to save a customer from themselvesand then smile when they tell the friends and neighbors that they designed it allyou build it their way..and it's all your faultthey call it customer service
Barry E-Remodeler
these are nice people open to suggestion. If they weren't I'd surely give them just what they wanted and laugh about it later
and Barry's correct, no matter if they drew it up, in the end it would be our fault if it didn't work right, they'd quickly forget it was their design.
Besides that I wouldn't put the company name on it and sleep well
Edited 9/4/2006 8:15 pm ET by CAGIV
Our own house has a one of the full bathrooms equipped with that very tub, the Kohler 54-incher. It is done up with a tile surround and a heavy Basco slider shower door.
I use it a lot myself, and certainly don't consider it worthless.
If you are going to do a shower unit, just a plug-in, I recommend the all acrylic units from Maax Aker. One like this 48-incher. I like to get them with the top cap and integral light option.
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Would this work?
PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)
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That toilet space is too small. Technically it would fit, but it would be awfully cramped.
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I agree, but maybe they're skinny people! Recon ya could find a motorized toilet seat that tilts forward when done?
Or, maybe someone makes a combo shower/tub that is shorter?
PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)PlaneWood
Tight space no matter how you cut it. The only thought I had, besides the shower stall, was to move the toliet opposite the shower, next to the sinks. Normally I give 36" for toilet, but you could cut it down to 30 - 32 if you really wanted to rob some space for the vanity. This would give you atleast 55 inches to fit a double bowel vanity. Next to the shower/tub could be the makeup area with stool requested by HO.
This setup gives you a few options. Next to the shower/tub could be the second sink (giving more space to the toilet and single vaniety), or a linen cabinet.
I was thinking 34" (17" either side of center line) was the general code for minimum space for a toilet.
BH makes a valid point, but, that design may be the simplest for the space (without resorting to smaller-than standard tubs, toilets, etc.)
So, edge the sinks all the way over to either end of the long wall, make them pedastals, or wall-hungs, and put a nice bit of casework in between.
So, that'd be 30.5" with a lav, 30-27" wide cabinet (like a 30x34.5x21 base with a 30x48x15-18 upper), and another 30.5" space with centered lav.
The ped/wall-mt gives back the "foot room" the toilet "wants" and also makes the room "feel" larger by giving longer sightlines.
Hmm, might could make a case for the cabinet base having "feet" rather than a standard toekick, to let it have a bit of "furniture" feel. Use a framed mirror on the wall over the lavs, too, rather than a flush plate mirror--which means a bit more wall detailing--but that's the kind of attention to detail that really "sells" a job like this, too.
It jsut struck me that this is a 49sf (round numbers) bath, that's hardly larger than a 'classic' one-wall, three appliance, 8x5, 40sf bath. We're getting almost twice as much bath into a single bath space.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Our bathroom is similarly proportioned, only it is only slightly deeper - we had the added "bonus" of a 3' corner cut off because of the furnace flue. I've attached the original design - we are utilizing upper cabs for storage and moved the sink over in the final build. You could put your second sink in the corner space we don't have, or move the door there and put the sinks at right angles to each other with a corner cab between.
The "plumbing wall" is a short wall that contains only the tub filler, the shower is on the long wall next to it. I love this shower - it is comfortable for showering and great for bathing small kids.
Sorry for the quality of the picture - I scanned in my pencil drawing.
Having recently designed and redesigned about, oh 5 or 6 times, a 6' X 10' bath THAT JUST HAD TO INCLUDE THE LAUNDRY AND TWO DOORS, I second the shower only option. If you do the shower in all tile, you can design just about anything. Provided, of course, that you can drain it.
Why does the bay have to go?
If it would fit in with the exterior of the house then make the bay extra deep but without the standard windows. Use the space for the tub and use glass block as the wall material along with some nice tile.
If you offset the bay there will be room for a two bowl vanity the entire length of the adjacent wall and the commode can be placed on the opposite wall in the corner.
This assumes the door to the room is roughly centered or slightly toward the vanity side.
I wanted to stop in say I appreciate everyone's input, I haven't had much time to look at it closely yet but I will.
Also consider the sinks. They make fairly narrow sinks. Ikea has a very nice one (if they are into that style) that we used in our bath remodel to clear up some floor space. It's not the best sink in terms of usability (it's hard to rinse your face out in it without spashing the mirror) but it's 100% better than the old vanity (which kept us from fully opening our door).
As for 'storage'...could that be built into the vanity/sink system? Does it need to be standalone? Is there a closet backing up to the bath that you could steal some space from?
No idea if it's useful, but I also came across corner mount toilets that come out at a 45 degree angle from a corner, which were nice for narrow spaces. Perhaps also consider a wall-mounted stool.
I'v never done on like shown below But I think it might work Ith gets a cabinet and you could adjust cabnet dimensions re toilet space.
Done this way you could easily put in double windows or even a narrow fixed casement with 2 casement sides. It would be nice & bright.
I think you could but shallow (6") wall cabinets as flankers on the windows. But might need to use the smaller size sinks & shift to interior edge of base.
Note comment on shower curtains. I find most housewives really don't like doors that lime-up with our midwestern water.
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Edited 9/6/2006 11:05 am ET by jimcco