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Best way fix cabinet mistake?

Zoe25 | Posted in General Discussion on October 31, 2008 04:38am

We are building a new house and we noticed that the cabinet installer did not have one of the walls pre-painted.  (see photo – cabinet to left of sink). 

When I called the installer, he told me they knew about the issue and were plannign on installing a “skin” on both cabinets on the side of the sink so they would match. 

I really don’t like how this sounds.  I am trying to figure out how big of a deal this is.  Should we insist they replace this cabinet or is this a good solution.  I feel like they are trying to pull a fast one — especially since they didn’t point it out to begin with.

Any thoughts?

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  1. Zoe25 | Oct 31, 2008 04:54am | #1

    Sorry, here is the photo...

    1. sledgehammer | Oct 31, 2008 04:58am | #2

      I wouldn't be concerned with skins on face frame cabinets. It actually gives the ends a smooth finish which I prefer.

       

      A Bigger concern would be....Why do some cabs with glass doors appear to have a brown interior and others a white?

      1. Zoe25 | Oct 31, 2008 05:01am | #3

        That one's easy -  they haven't put the glass in yet.  Thanks for  the response!

        1. FastEddie | Oct 31, 2008 03:09pm | #10

          they haven't put the glass in yet.

          I'm surprised the glass makes that much difference in the appearance.  It sure looks to me like the insides are painted different colors.

          I agree with Pif ... you need some crown or trim to close the gap at the ceiling.  That looks tacky, and a great place to collect uncleanable dirt."Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson

          "When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

          1. user-83153 | Oct 31, 2008 04:44pm | #13

            "I'm surprised the glass makes that much difference in the appearance.  It sure looks to me like the insides are painted different colors."

            I believe that you are looking at cardboard taped to the back of the cabinet doors.

               Rob

    2. JohnFinn | Oct 31, 2008 04:59pm | #14

      Guess I'd need to see how the rest of the cabinet end panels are finished including the base cab's(they usually all have the same appearance). As far as what you have posted in the photo, I think it looks good, only need some crown to finish, or is that low-voltage wiring on top of cabs for lighting?

      1. Zoe25 | Nov 01, 2008 03:52pm | #15

        Thanks for the thoughts.  The job isn't finished yet.  They still need to come back and put on the crown molding and hardware.  Also, the glass cabinets look like different interiors because of the cardboard backing.  We are having LED lights put in the top cabinets vfor display.  Originally, we were going with an LED tape, but when I figured out the cost, we decided to go with LED pucks instead.   Our electrician wouldn't use halogen  because of the enclosed space and fire risk.

        As for the original question, they didn't need to put any panels on any of the other cabinets because they were all finished at the factory.  Supposedly, these are "semii-custom" cabinets and weren't supposed to have the end panels installed on-site. 

        I did look to see if the cabinet belonged somewhere else, but it doesn't.  I guess the manufacturer made an error and from what everyone is saying, it really shouldn't be a big deal.  I just hope it looks ok!

        They are coming on Friday to finish.  I'll try to post a picture when they are done if anyone would like to see.

         

        1. DonCanDo | Nov 01, 2008 04:05pm | #16

          I'll try to post a picture when they are done if anyone would like to see.

          A follow-up post is always appreciated.  Hope it turns out well for you.

        2. FastEddie | Nov 01, 2008 11:13pm | #17

          they didn't need to put any panels on any of the other cabinets because they were all finished at the factory.

          Ypu might consider having them replace the cabinet with the correct one, rather than have one diffewrent end panel."Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson

          "When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

    3. MSA1 | Nov 01, 2008 11:55pm | #18

      Depends on the cabinet brand. I install alot of Shenandoah cabinets from Lowes. They have a side panel like you describe.

      They're a pain to put on but they work fine. 

      Family.....They're always there when they need you.

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        Dreamcatcher | Nov 02, 2008 06:55am | #19

        Another thing I've run into with skins is that an afterthought skin often doesn't match perfectly to the rest of the cabinet. But that usually only happens if the paint is a multilcolor process or has a glaze applied, and sometimes with stained cherry.If it is just a regular (one color) paint job....shouldn't be a problem.GK

        1. MSA1 | Nov 02, 2008 04:52pm | #20

          My biggest complaint with the sides, is that they're the same depth as the cabinets. If they were an inch bigger I could forego the scribe moulding. 

          Family.....They're always there when they need you.

  2. alwaysoverbudget | Oct 31, 2008 06:09am | #4

    as far as i know thats pretty much how pre fab cabinets are handled,that wayfrom the manf a cabinet can be used anywhere and if it's a end cabinet they get a panel,saves some money.larry

    if a man speaks in the forest,and there's not a woman to hear him,is he still wrong?

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      Dreamcatcher | Oct 31, 2008 06:25am | #6

      or it might just be that they installed the right cabinet in the wrong spot.If all/most of the cabinets are the same size, you might just have a cabinet with a painted right side that is buried. I don't think I have ever done that but I have put on many skins and it looks factory finished.GK

      1. alwaysoverbudget | Oct 31, 2008 06:56am | #7

        that sounds like something i would do.then have to tear em all apart..................larryif a man speaks in the forest,and there's not a woman to hear him,is he still wrong?

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    hammer1 | Oct 31, 2008 06:13am | #5

    They are not pulling a fast one, it's standard procedure to add finished end skins or panels.

    Beat it to fit / Paint it to match

  4. Piffin | Oct 31, 2008 12:32pm | #8

    That is typical - nothing to be concerned about. What bothers me is design with them so close to ceiling but no soffit, bulkhead, or crown trim filling that space. It will be a terrible trap for filth.

     

     

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    1. dovetail97128 | Oct 31, 2008 04:19pm | #11

      Might not be finished with the job yet? I agree if there will be no crown installed , guessing here that it is yet to be installed.
      They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

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      Gene_Davis | Oct 31, 2008 04:25pm | #12

      Maybe it's a case of two piece tall crown assembly, and just like the finished ends, incorrectly ordered and thus not there.

        

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  5. DonCanDo | Oct 31, 2008 01:50pm | #9

    ...we noticed that the cabinet installer did not have one of the walls pre-painted.

    I assume you mean that the end panel of the cabinet wasn't pre-painted, not the wall.

    Finished end panels are common and a nice touch, as others have said.  Will all of the exposed end cabinets get a finished end panel?  They should.

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