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   Guest_ | Jun 26, 2000 11:39pm | #1

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   Does the newell sit right on the top of the header?

   If so, there is a device made just for this. It's a keyhole slot and pin that get anchored to the floor and newell and you drive the newell right in place and as it slides, it tightens up.

   Of, if you can notch the newel post, you can lag it to the side of the header.

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   Guest_ | Jun 27, 2000 12:04am | #2

   *You could also screw a plate thats a couple of inches bigger than the newel in both directions to the bottom of the newel. Then mortise the subfloor to a depth that equals the thickness of the plate and screw thru the plate into the beam. Use large screws for all conections. There are several options available from stair parts suppliers such as LJ Smith.Chuck

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   brent_collins | Jun 27, 2000 02:50pm | #3

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   I don't have room to notch. Have to be able to hook the newel on top of header. Do you know who makes the keyhole product? Thanks Brent

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   Guest_ | Jun 28, 2000 05:32am | #4

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   The keyhole hole product is called Key Lock. Most lumber yards should have them. Another option is a 1/2" hanger bolt made for this application. They are about 12" long, the lag bolt end would screw into the header, the machine end goes into a 1/2" hole drilled into the bottom end of your newel. A nut and washer are attached through an intersecting hole in the side of the newel, which is plugged after you tighten the nut with a box wrench. These things don"t come loose, I've had the screws that come with the key locks break off, and think you can get a more secure result with the hanger bolt system. You should be able to get both from your stair part supplier, (unless he lives in a big box)

   Steve

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   Ron_Budgell | Jun 30, 2000 09:01pm | #5

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   Around here, a lot of people use double-ended screws. They are about 8 inches long with the same thread as a 3/8 inch lag bolt on each end. They are easy and strong as long as you've got something solid underneath that floor - you got to think about that when framing - and make sure you drill the pilot holes straight. Stair parts suppliers should have them. A big dowel and glue will work too.

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   brent_collins | Jun 30, 2000 09:01pm | #6

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   I'm getting ready to install a post to post stair rail. The question I have is what is the best way to install the newel posts. The problem is there is a four inch header where the newels needs to go. I'm using a 4" square. Can't put newel on front of stairs because stem wall that spindles will sit on. Is there a good way to hook the newel on top of the header?

   Thanks Brent