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   EdWilliams | Oct 25, 2008 04:56am | #1

   I buy them at my local saw shop.  Email me and I'll try to go by there on Monday and get the brand name.

   Ed Williams

   [email protected]

    

   http://www.ejwmusic.com
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   EdWilliams | Oct 25, 2008 05:03am | #2

   I found them in about three clicks.........

   Amana tools:

   http://www.amanatool.com/boring/carbide-tipped-countersinks-55200.html

   http://www.ejwmusic.com
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   Jed42 | Oct 25, 2008 06:05am | #3

   Man I feel stupid.  You have to know I tried that, right?  I would not be so dumb as to not google "carbide tipped countersink bits" and just come here and ask.  Anyway, thanks.  And here's a link right to the Connecticut Tool page that sells them...

   http://www.ctsaw.com/store/html-amana/at_55200.php

   Thanks again.

   Jed

2. 
   silver77 | Oct 25, 2008 06:05am | #4

   Cool...so 3 clicks is the old 5 phone calls?
   silver

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   Jed42 | Oct 25, 2008 06:10am | #5

   ...BTW ED...Great music page.  You're a hell of a songwriter.

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   silver77 | Oct 25, 2008 06:22am | #6

   Didn't know what...Music???I followed the link...you got country!!Very talented...playing right now-thanks for that!silver

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   EdWilliams | Oct 25, 2008 07:36am | #7

   Hey, Thanks!

   I've been a carpenter forever.....

   But I've been a songwriter forever and ever....

   It's my hobby but maybe one day....maybe you'll hear one of my songs on the radio.

   Thanks again.

   Ed.http://www.ejwmusic.com

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   calvin | Oct 26, 2008 01:56am | #15

   Ed, honest to stink'n goodness.........

   good to have you back in the fold.

   Stay around.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

   Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

   http://www.quittintime.com/

    

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   AitchKay | Oct 27, 2008 06:01pm | #16

   I'm not too wild about the tapered bits. They cut along their full length, so they overheat easily.Standard twist drills cut only at the tip, so they run cooler.And who uses wood screws anymore? But tapered drills are excellent for exact placement when it really counts.Another beef I have is with the sizing. Most sets are specifically-sized: 9/64", 11/64", etc. But the countersinks and the 1/4"-hex bit holders take up a lot of shank length. So I always buy countersinks that I can use 6"-long drill bits with. And those sizes -- 1/8", 5/32", 3/16", etc. are often not available at hardware stores and the big boxes.I don't always use these long holder/countersink/bit sets, but I always have them with me for longer screws.AitchKay

3. 
   EdWilliams | Oct 28, 2008 05:18am | #21

   It's all your fault Big Cal............

   And I got songs to write!

   Thanks,

   Ed.http://www.ejwmusic.com

4. 
   calvin | Oct 28, 2008 05:28am | #22

   Ed, I don't know much about country music, but one would think there's some material here.

   You know, past your momma getting run over by a train sort of stuff.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

   Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

   http://www.quittintime.com/

    

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   EdWilliams | Oct 25, 2008 07:43am | #8

   Thanks Jed,

   And thanks for the link.  That's cheaper than I get them here in town.  Maybe I'll order a few for the shop.

   We use a lot of #6 drywall screws and the #4 bit works best.  The #6 countersink leaves a pretty big crater in my opinion.

   Ed.http://www.ejwmusic.com

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   ANDYSZ2 | Oct 25, 2008 07:54am | #9

   I don't know about carbide tipped but the dewalt version has tapered bits that are long enough to get thru a 2x stock.my only gripe is they don't sell replacement bits and you have to buy a 3 pack for 25$ plus.

   ANDYSZ2WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?

   REMODELER/PUNCHOUT SPECIALIST

    

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   EdWilliams | Oct 25, 2008 09:04am | #10

   I don't understand DeWalt's thinking with the tapered bit.....

   The purpose of a tapered bit is to eliminate the blow-out that you get with a twist drill bit on the back of the board you're drilling through.  Great idea.

   But the counter-sink is designed for a screw and when you're attaching two boards together with a screw, you can't see the back of the screw hole.

   I don't get it.

   Ed.http://www.ejwmusic.com

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   ANDYSZ2 | Oct 25, 2008 10:07am | #11

   I think the tapered bit provides more bite for the screw as the hole is smaller the deeper the screw goes.

   ANDYSZ2WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?

   REMODELER/PUNCHOUT SPECIALIST

    

3. 
   Jigs_n_Fixtures | Oct 25, 2008 10:05pm | #13

   The tapered bits are for "real" wood screws, which have a taper, that is matched by the tapered base diameter of the bit. 

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   EdWilliams | Oct 26, 2008 12:26am | #14

   That makes sense.

   We don't use any real wood screws any more.

   Thanks,

   Ed.http://www.ejwmusic.com

3. 
   IMERC | Oct 25, 2008 12:50pm | #12

   masonry bit...

    

   Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

   WOW!!! What a Ride!
   Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

4. 
   ronbudgell | Oct 27, 2008 08:31pm | #17

   Jed42,

   I have had a couple of carbide countersinks I bought from Lee Valley Tools.

   They both went the same way - shattered like glass when I tightened them down on one of the flutes of the drill bit.

   Lee Valley replaced the first one that did that. The second time I didn't want a replacement.

   ron

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   Jed42 | Oct 28, 2008 02:52am | #18

   No kidding?!  The friend I have that has them has been using the same ones for several years and work like new.  I am surprised to hear that.  I appreciate the heads up.  I was going to order a set of 3, think I'll get the one and see how she goes!

   Really appreciate it, man.  I guess that's what the forum is all about!No Coffee No Workee!

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   Treetalk | Oct 28, 2008 03:02am | #19

   I just asked the same question at Knots about carbide countersinks and several people had stories about them breaking. I wondered about the one Norm uses all the time and his web page references some countersinks but not the one you see him using all the time.

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   ANDYSZ2 | Oct 28, 2008 03:15am | #20

   I have a bunch of extra countersinks left from when I have broken the tapered bits.Dewalt doesn't sell the bits seperately so I buy a three pack to replace the one size I like.I have never broke a countersink but I don't think they are carbide.

   ANDYSZ2WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?

   REMODELER/PUNCHOUT SPECIALIST

    

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   ronbudgell | Oct 28, 2008 02:37pm | #23

   Jed42

   I found that once they were installed on the drill bit they worked perfectly. They broke while being installed, not while in use. One lasted for quite a while before I installed it wrong.

   If the carbide cuttuer was relieved so it couldn't contact the steel of the drill bit, these would be great tools.

   Ron