Hi,
Im looking to put cedar siding on my house here this spring. My house is over 100 years old and has split sheathing (so it is not as smooth and uniform a surface as plywood would be). The guy I have doing the work suggested placing 1/4″ fan fold over the sheathing boards prior to nailing the siding on to help smooth the surface (like for vinyl siding). Is this fan fold really needed? or can he house wrap it or use tar paper etc… ?
Also any general hints about installing cedar on a old house would be appreciated.
For what its worth we will be using:
6×3/4 prestained red cedar siding with a 4.5″ reveal
-Thanks
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could you descibe split sheathing or is it that the sheathing is split...
is it board and batton or plank???
how bad is yur current sheathing... got a pic..
my vote is for the the tar paper.
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What I'm calling split sheathing is 1x boards. These boards (about 1x10 or so) are nailed to the wall studs, forming exterior sheathing. These boards are roughcut and old. Some are split and others have holes in them where knots were etc... The old siding (which will be removed) has tar paper and or rosin paper under it. Attached are two pictures of the house showing the sheathing. Thanks for your help
-Colin
I cannot think of any advantage to using that fanfold stuff under cedar. It's used for a 'coverup' job when siding over existing siding. I'd suggest good ole felt paper. Ideally a rainscreen design would be used.
Easiest rain screen is created by placing extra strips of feltpaper at each stud.
your oldefarmhouse looks great and the present siding doesn't lok that bad either
just went through the same siding process here at my own home and on my neighbor's
I have a heavy duty air stapler so I put many a 2 1/4" staple into that old sheathing to make it "whole" and snug it up to the framing - on the corners i went w/ two layers of 15 lb paper and hit it w/ 30 lb in the field - maybe overkill but not a bad place for it
our siding was combo of bevel and shingle ( western red cedar ) all backprimed and face coated before application - don't know if you have formula for your prestained but it would be nice to have those boards stained all over
some 2" SS ringshanked nails would be good fastener applied through the lapping piece right above the top edge of the lapped piece
for layout might think of horizontal runs right at the top of the drip edges over your beautifully crossheaded windows
reveal closed down say 3/8" in a controlled manner will not be noticeable where you might need to constrict your reveal
you've a fine abode and have at it John
nice work so far...
that's what they are ... sheathing...
I wouldn't call them rough cut either... that black on the boards by the window is probably from water infiltration...
repair what you think might give you a problem in the fitere, felt and apply yur siding...
BTW... I only open thesmaller of the two... there's a time limit on this 'puter..
don't waste the time, money and energy on the fan fold....
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Edited 1/19/2005 4:49 pm ET by IMERC
Howdy,Nice house. I like some of that detailingI see no reason to use anything more than tarpaper unless there are worse gaps than I see in the photos. The support pillaster that the header rests on wjoining the house - bolted in - I would have run a strip of tarpaper behind it first, just like at a corner trim. You don't want to count 100% on caulking to keep water out at joints liket hat. Be sure it is stripped with TP tight to it before the trim surrond goes on over the PT.Is the rim joist held by bolts only?
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I'm not sure if I understand you question, but the support column is lag bolted to a stud in two locations and toe nailed with some 16p nails to the sheathing as well. The header that is visible in the first picture is also toenailed into a stud as well as down into the top of the column.
Thanks for all the good suggestions / advice
you may want to consider changing the lags to bolts now...
bolts are much more better way to go.... put felt up behind / under / between the RJ and the pilaster and the hose..
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think pif is trying to tell you to put in a mechanical connecter at the pilaster and header location...
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no, I was sugesting getting tarpaper between the pillaster post that is bolted to the sheathing, and the sheathing itself, because when siding is butted against trim there, with no tarpaper backing it up, water will penetrate the wall, and at the very least, leave the knind of black staining on the sheathing near the opposite corner, and at the worst, leave the sheathing rotted dand the sills too.my other Q was about the rim joists bolted to the outer posts of the roof support just a couple feet above ground level. I like to notch into the post and not just rely on bolting.Better than notching, is the extra support stump you and I put under those posts we set while you were here
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got it...
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