This stove should have an 8″ stainless steel liner from its outlet up through to the chimney crown/cap. The masonry opening is too large for the stove outlet- 70 sq in versus 50 sq in. Plus the large masonry mass cools the flue gases allowing them to condense., especially it’s an outside chimney- bad place to put a chimney!!! With the lighter mass stainless, the flue liner will stay warmer.
It also sounds that you’re burning the stove a bit too cool. Is the wood 20% moistrure content or less? Wet wood causes the fire to burn cool.
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Evidently you didnt read a word I wrote on this subject which was extensive. You havent learned to operate your own stove like many people out there. Its every bit you fault . I dont really see that wasting my time on you now will change anything since you choose to be one that doesnt listen anyway. I sure dont mind trying to help someone when they are trying but you wont change by tomorrow.
Tim
wow, that was harsh... i know he only has 175 posts on the books but geez, with a response like that we will not see 176. sure my profile only says 59 but I have been around since the webex days and there was a screwup ....
Maybe a simple "CHECK THE ARCHIVES" would do.
james
NOT! I read what Tim wrote a bit back and couldn't believe the time he spent trying to help. Harsh, nope...not harsh enough. Say that when the guy has a fire in the middle of the night while sleeping!
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Edited 10/13/2005 11:33 pm ET by andybuildz
since we are talking about chimney cleaning, I have a question. If the stove is lined with bricks how do you clean the chimney. I really think the top of the stove is lined too, I may be wrong, after really looked.
Not sure I get your question completely.
Normally the fire box portion that holds the fire is lined. That, a lot of times the height of brick standing up. I have also seen them double height in a warm morning heater that had a tall fire box.
When the chimney is cleaned the stove is pulled.
To clean the stove , it is over fired to temps from 1500 to 2000 degrees. Preferably , once a day. That will also clean the chimney if the stove runs hot long enough to heat the chimney into burning violates .
Some folks would do that intentionally to cause a chimney fire under a controlled time and condition. If youre gonna have a chimney fire its better to have one at say 3pm with a garden hose full of water and you waiting on it out side then it is when you are sleeping or away at work and school.
Or the worst time ever ! When the kids walk through the door from school and tend the stove by opening it . Often time when a chimney fire occurs it is after a long lull of a slow burn when the fire door is opened and explodes with the incomming oxegen. Others times are in the morning when we get up and are trying to bring the temp up in the house, but often its dark out side.
Tim
if I get on the roof with a brush and run it through the chimmney, how do I get to the bottom, I cant move the stove. I guess unhook the pipe from the stove but that make a mess and the joints are putty shut.
how do I get to the bottom, I cant move the stove. I guess unhook the pipe from the stove but that make a mess and the joints are putty shut.
If you were to hire a chimney sweep guy to clean your chimney. He would start at the top down as you described. He would then remove the stove over drop cloths and take the mess out side with a huge vacumn. He would then go to a powered hand tool that the vac hooks to kinda like our shop tools hooked for sawdust. He would then clean the connections and the stove it self. The good ones earn their money. They cant leave the loose filings in the bottom or they will ignite easily and you would have a chimney fire.
After that if a stove is fired daily as I described it makes the chimney sweeps go hungry. The build up starts at the connection to the flue and the stove it self. If there is a smoke chamber such as a fire place that a stove is ran into with out piping to the lintel and then sealing off , the creasote will dangerously collect in the whole cavity.
Tim
If the stove is lined with bricks how do you clean the chimney.>>>>>When I lived up in the mtns of Virginia helping this old lady through a winter. Every fall she'd tie a rope to each end of a small fir tree. One person on the roof and one at the hearth. They'd pull the tree up and down a few dozens times. Then start a hot fire they'd tend to.For me when I moved into this 325 year old house I bought a wire brush and flex rods. I'd run it through my "stone" chimmny from the hearth and to be dbl careful I'd also do it from the roof, then start a hot fire to burn up anything left that was loose. Seems to work pretty well.
Thge chimmny that handles my gas heat I had lined with a SS liner.
Be well
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When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
"Say that when the guy has a fire in the middle of the night while sleeping!"
Worse yet the whole family which as you guessed is the reason for the kind of response I chose. Kids cant be responsible and often women in these cases if they trusted the man of the house to look after them.
The wood stove thread and the firewood thread would have informed him and they are both still current threads.
I dont really care if hes mad at me if he just does somthing about it .
Tim
That just prooves you didnt read the other threads .
And by the way, just because you start a thread doesnt mean its your house or that you own the content.
The threads are public and once you enter information into them it makes that information public.
I will suggest you read the other threads in detail for your families saftey if nothing else. Yes I could have linked them for you , every one . But I felt you needed a wake up call before you kill your self and family. I dont really care if you liked it or not. If you had been on the ball you would have already gained the knowledge before you put your self at risk. I feel about the same about drunk drivers with out insurance. The situation you described is dangerous to all that lives in that house. Give your head a shake .
Tim
It's been an interesting read, Tim.Has this guy been part of that other thread you mention, and you interacted directly with him, giving good advice how to...? I can't see his comments here 'cause he deleted them now. Took his ball and went home apparently.I have had my chimney here operating for 9 winters now. I've been up on the roof to clean it three times but it never has had more than a handfull of soot each time, I believe, directly due to the fact I use all the right wood and burning practices.but when i had the store, I regularly got calls from people wanting to know why their stove wouldn't draw right and smoked the hosue up. Some of them could get their flue creosoted closed in three or four weeks. Sometimes I think that burning wood should require a class and a license just like driving a car does, but it's OK for a guy to kill his family in his own house I guess.Every year about this time, al these questions come up again and the newspapers and insurance agencies all do public education on the subject but folks still go right on ignoring all the good advice. Is that what has ahppened with this guy?
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Yes sir pretty much , thats it. Just got done wearin our self out with two other threads and he posts a question about what to do with a bunch of creosote and it didnt happen the year before when he just has a fire place. He just didnt understand it.
Good to have ya back.
Tim