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Deface to Reface

PeterJ | Posted in Photo Gallery on November 17, 2005 06:57am

 

I tell customers it’s gonna get uglier before it gets beautiful.

If you’d asked me about refacing 2 years ago, I’d have told you that it’s just butchering. But it can be done well. Most that I’ve seen use moulding everywhere to cover sins…looks like a mobile home. We aim higher. 

Win and I scribe all panels to fit, and get nice crisp outside corners. Hard to tell it’s a reface till one looks inside.

Here’s a job we just finished. Two days to complete.

PJ

Everything will be okay in the end.  If it’s not okay, it’s not the end. 


Edited 11/17/2005 2:44 am ET by PeterJ

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  1. DougU | Nov 17, 2005 07:28am | #1

    Peter

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    Why would anybody want to replace these beautiful cab fronts!!!

    Nice looking job.

    Doug

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      PeterJ | Nov 17, 2005 06:07pm | #3

      Why would anybody want to replace these beautiful cab fronts!!!

      It is a mystery, isn't it?

        My partner and I were joking about the original cabinety and what it took to build the drawer fronts and doors. It'd be hard to make a noticeable mistake as one was sanding those nice scollops in the edges.

      What's your job?

      I make cab doors better by boogerin' 'em up!PJ

      Everything will be okay in the end.  If it's not okay, it's not the end. 

  2. donk123 | Nov 17, 2005 03:27pm | #2

    Peter - Really nice work. Funny, I was talking to a customer yesterday about this - redoing the kitchen. I'm supposed to put in new floor and countertop, and she wanted to do something with the cabinets (1970's dark, with routed frames inset panels). Originally, I suggested stripping them, but spoke to a guy at the paint store who cautioned against it. She doesn't want to simply paint over the existing, and I told her to reface them. (Actually, it's a small kitchen and I think she should replace them. But there's no money in the budget for that.)

    Question to you is - What does it cost? I did not want to even hazard a guess.

    Don K.

    EJG Homes     Renovations - New Construction - Rentals

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      PeterJ | Nov 17, 2005 06:34pm | #4

      Don, this job was just under $4k. We aren't the cheapest in the area, but do dang good work and offer a five year warranty. We also offer some things that others don't.  Lots of problems can be solved that were there from the git-go. I point these out to people when consulting.

      In this kitchen there was a drawer above the door on the back of pennisula...had all of a 1 1/4" to get your hand in below the overhang. Removed drawer rail and changed to full height door. Hinging on the left sink upper was right and left, changed both to lefts, so you didn't have to reach around door to access. Moved hood shelf up to accomodate micro/hood. Removed unused cutting boards above drawer stacks and installed missing rails. We also do a lot of drawer and guide replacement. Euro guides and melamine boxes are waaaay better than the old monorails that seem to be on almost everything.

      We could actually install new cabinets for not a lot more $, but there are other things to consider. Tops and backsplash, fitting in original footprint because of new flooring and a host of other things. All told, reface usually saves somewhere between 25% and 50% over new.

      Here's another recent job, sounds like just what you're dealing with. Hard to imagine it was the hot ticket at one time! The door on the counter is what we replaced with, I'll get some after pics when I get back to do some other little things they wanted.PJ

      Everything will be okay in the end.  If it's not okay, it's not the end. 

      1. donk123 | Nov 17, 2005 08:16pm | #5

        Peter - Thanks for the info. I kind of suspected the numbers would be pretty serious, based in part on the last time I had some custom doors made.

        Don K.

        EJG Homes    Renovations - New Construction - Rentals  

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