I come to breaktime to relax and socialize and ask for advice/offer advice. not to see big banners with dewalt logos on them. what is the deal?
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LOL, That banner has been promoting Fine Homebuilding online subscriptions for the past 6 months, or more.
Guess they finally got a sponsor.
Give it time, you won't see after awhile, and it is only below the first post of the next block of 20.
They are advertising for a trim guy contest.
Besides, oh dang! I forgot my drills, and circular saw....what's wrong with DeWalt?
Better DeWalt than having some crappy Bosch or HD logo. =~)
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"Perfect is the enemy of Good." Morrison
if you don't have to use them... (as indicated buy their no wear marks virtual virginity)....
there's nothing wrong with them...
is that all the have available to you up there??? now that would make sense for ownership...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
You caught the Bosch jab, eh?"Perfect is the enemy of Good." Morrison
so there was one...
hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
as indicated buy their no wear marks virtual virginity)....
there's nothing wrong with them...
absolutely
"Never pick a fight with an old man. If he can't beat you he will just kill you." Steinbeck
exactly....
no wear marks....
can't use them....
won't use them....
no point in using them...
and you they stay just the way they were new, factory defects and all...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
High winds, gale force, blew away the sawdust. Scrap is in the bucket, can't believe it didn't blow away too.
Actually, the reason I took the pic (1.3 megpixel, low resolution hides the scratches) was to show the incredible aerodynamics of the DeWalt gear.
DeWalt. Extreme gear for extreme conditions.
All the lesser tools blew away."Perfect is the enemy of Good." Morrison
since I don't have boots tall enough I hope my extended elevation save from something that deep...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
He does tend to lay it on a bit thick......
On a hill by the harbour
I guess...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
deep and wide"Perfect is the enemy of Good." Morrison
and WTB a boat won't float in it....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
I must have missed that storm............
On a hill by the harbour
Maybe Marty can lend you some boots"Perfect is the enemy of Good." Morrison
no boots that tall made....
the high ground is the only option....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
LOL!
I'll take the low road be in Scotland afore ye"Perfect is the enemy of Good." Morrison
cool....
under yur own "stuff" by the sounds of it....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Was there supposed to be some tools in that pic? All I can see is some bright yellow yard art.
that's art???
you must be having flash backs to the 60's.....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Well, I didn't know what else it might be, shiny abstract yard art, didn't look like tools...
see yur point....
and they seem to come under the jurisdiction of the yard crew....
not the construction types...
construction types would have tools...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Looks like the kind of stuff they might sell in HD garden section, right next to the plastic tool pouches, just on hearsay, never been there myself...
somebody mentioned they came out of the pink flamingo section, two asiles over from the moon balls....
look for the little guy holding the lantern....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Art is in the eye of the beholder and Gord is probably blind as well as deaf.
On a hill by the harbour
now it all comes together and a ray of comprehension filters thru....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Whine whine whineI have so mant Black and yellow cases I have to write whats in them so I can grab the right case. Ever travel 50 miles thinking you have a cordless drill and find you have a jig saw instead?
Gord I am just letting you know that this is gonna be painfull.
A) There is absolutley no sawdust which suggests that you have never used those tools.
Or
B) You are a stay at home mom that writes honey do lists
On a hill by the harbour
that's what I told him....
no mars or scratches either...
look at the black top....
even the trash can is virgin...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"You are a stay at home mom that writes honey do lists"
Milf? "Perfect is the enemy of Good." Morrison
Well I do not have a photo to show since my tools are not setup all in the same place right now.
But I do use my DeWalt tools every day and my chop saw has 3 years of use and only replaced the brushes and it is still a great saw. (many hours of use)
And I also bought the a small portable dewalt table saw for those short term setups. I still set up a cast iron top contractor's saw on long term jobs. So I like DeWalt tools But regardless although this is a public forum it is still finehomebuilding and they need ad revenue to keep this site up. That Ad is how they make money. So unless you work for free I would expect that you can understand that those that host this site do not work for free ether.Oh and also hvtrimguy you have a link to your site on your posts that is not exactly the same as the ad banner but it does promote your work and you can post here with out that liink. So don't you think it is a little hypocritical to complain about a ad banner and put your own advertising in your post?Edited 9/2/2008 9:02 am ET by MFournier
Edited 9/2/2008 9:03 am ET by MFournier
Dude, every other page of the magazine is ads. I'm not making it up. Half of the articles are ads too.
I do see a glimmer of hope in the background, the bluish colored item.The dust catcher looks like it is doing its job, a perfectly clean work area.
Edited 9/2/2008 10:32 am ET by wood4rd
Well, it's not hard to get rid of.
Just use Firefox http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox
and the Ad Blocker plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865
Follow the directions on how to turn the individual ads off, and you are good to go.
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and the Ad Blocker plugin
apparently someone downloaded the program into my brain - I scrolled right on by and didn't even notice the ad lol!View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product” – Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I just installed and tried out that filter, and it works great.Thanks fer the tip.
Half the people you know are below average.
No problem. You might be interested in this article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/24/AR2008062401287_pf.htmlNot sure if they'll make you register to read it; if they do, it's free.And the filters mentioned can be found here: http://easylist.adblockplus.org/'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Next it will be a scrolling banner with cartoon characters waving at us. Then the ads will begin appearing more frequently and eventually between each post.
What I'd like Dewalt and Taunton to know is that this kind of advertising gets a mildly negative reaction from me. If your tools are better than others and the price is fair, you'll my business. Otherwise, it's no sale.
And IMO Taunton should look at this board as a valuable circulation asset, not as an opportunity to further capitalize on the free expert advice some of us provide to their readers.
BTW, since the thread on BT's language taboos disappeared the other day, I'd be willing to bet that this one will be gone before lunch too.
Edit: It's one thing to monitor a message board, it's another to censor conversations which may not be favorable to you.
Edited 9/2/2008 8:48 am by Hudson Valley Carpenter
...the thread on BT's language taboos disappeared the other day...
Its still there 109125.1 - maybe moved to a new file location?View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product” – Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
It must have been moved to the Tavern, as an means to eliminate it's potentially embarrasing impact.
I don't subscribe to that folder so that's why I couldn't find it.
Advertising pays the bills.
You're supposed to pretend to notice it, that way they keep paying for the site. Like on tv, you're supposed to pretend you see the ads, otherwise it'll be all pay tv.
Uh, for probably 80% of the people, it is pay TV. I have basic cable and it runs $60/ month.
I remember when cable first came to my neighborhood in 1979. It cost $9.99 / month and you paid for it cause "there's no commercials".
That lasted a long time.
Family.....They're always there when they need you.
C'mon. Do you really think T. Press provides this forum just to be nice? They have a business to run just like the rest of (most) of us.
Do you really think T. Press provides this forum just to be nice? They have a business to run just like the rest of (most) of us.
I think they provide this forum for "exposure". That is, the more exposure they get, the more subscribers (to the magazine) they'll get. But like most advertising, I'm sure it's very hard to find a direct correlation between money spent here and money received in subscriptions (and books, CD's, etc.).
One day, some newly appointed executive-in-charge-of-revenue will ask the folks sponsoring this website to justify their budget and prove that it results in sufficient increased sales. That will probably be a very hard justification and may result in the demise of this site. If that day ever comes, I hope they give us some advanced warning so we can all agree on a new hang-out.
One day, some newly appointed executive-in-charge-of-revenue will ask the folks sponsoring this website to justify their budget
You say that like you think it hasn't already happened. What makes you think that...?
Actually, it would be extremely surprising if Taunton corporate did not regularly require their various divisions to justify their budgets. That is standard corporate practise. Obviously, the web-forum group has done their justifying successfully so far or we wouldn't be here discussing anything.
But you know what? It wouldn't be a Bad Thing if those of us along for this 'free ride' clicked on those ads once in a while. Even if you don't wanna buy whatever is being advertised; even if you think yellow tools are the devil's spawn; even if....
Just click on it. Yeah, I don't like ads either, but I would like having to pay a subscription to use this forum even less. (And I would like having it disappear least of all.)
Click the ad, then ignore it afterwards. Costs you nothing, but it pays 'per click' to Uncle Taunton.
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
I took your advice and clicked on the ad. It was my first time. I have to go wash my hands now. I just don't feel, um... clean.
Help, I cant get the yellow off!
amputation....
you were warned....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
ROAR.
Think about it this way: those ads could be a lot worse. They could blink, flash, jump around the screen, or play midi-music or stupid sound effects on mouse-over. They also have a far lower piss-off factor than the ones embedded at the beginning of some of the newer DVD movies. You know, DVD's you actually pay money to own or rent? With embedded advertising?? Which immoral marketing whöre thought up that one...?
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
"...those ads could be a lot worse. They could blink, flash, jump around the screen, or play midi-music or stupid sound effects..."Or even worse, they could feature a gif of an endlessly repeating explosion. :)
BruceT
Touché!
that's worth saing again...
touche'......
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
tsk, tsk, that's supposed to be an accent acute. Monsieur Richards will be very disappointed in you.
this is good...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
You find me an image that better expresses the entrenched, unquenchable, and necessary anger consequent to the proverb above it, and I'll use it.
So far, I haven't found one.
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
Now now, let's not get touchy. 'Twas just a gentle jibe with no harm meant.Lord knows you've got a right to scorn the so-called justice system.
BruceT
Ooops.
I saw the :) in your post, but I got so wrapped up in searching my immense and vast vocabulary for $25 words with which to impress you into submission...that I forgot to put a <;~)> in my answer.
No bent feelings, pardner.
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
As our beloved BB says, " The anger gonna eat you up".
Remember, you are not what you think you are, you are what you think. (I said that, just now).Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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fellow men.
BB?
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
BB?
Brigitte Bardot, in her...and my...younger days.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:mmRLOv4WW0kJ::bp3.blogger.com/_nf7t3AcbZuw
If she is what she thinks, I don't think I wanna is her.
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Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
Shee--it. Ya just had to go and disillusion me, didn't ya?
Brown Bagg.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations
They kill Prophets, for Profits.
The world of people goes up and
down and people go up and down with
their world; warriors have no business
following the ups and downs of their
fellow men.
Ah. Better him than her.
But if ya don't get angry about things worth gittin' angry about, the weenies will eat you up instead.
So yer gonna get ate up either way. The choice is a matter of personal ethics. Make yers; I've made mine.
Not cranked; just sayin'....
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
I don't mind the little advertising...at least it is advertising for an actual chance to win something. Most of all I appreciate this site and the fact that it's FREE and has few RULES. I also frequent the forum over at OWWM.org and often get fed up with the administration there; there are too many rules and it's run with a "don't like it, then go start your own forum" attitude (that was actually what I was told there when I tried to suggest that air compressors were valuable enough machines to the woodworking environment to warrant their own index). Any gripe there is immediatly tossed out and discussion off machine context is nearly prohibited. While here, I only get a little peeved at the DIY crowd that likes to throw thier 2 cents into areas they don't have the real knowledge of or come to ask questions like "how much to remodel a bathroom" or "how to build my house"...questions that usually make me have to hold myself back from telling them to just hire a real carpenter.I am also glad that the Tavern is gone...only went there a couple of times to find that it was just a politics and religion rant area.Overall, Taunton has the best forum I have been to yet.gk
I am also glad that the Tavern is gone...
Is that true? the Tavern gone. I had myself removed durring the last election and damn happy because of it. I dont miss any part of it.
Doug
Far from GONE, it's BOOMING with Poligive..he just can't see it.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations
They kill Prophets, for Profits.
The world of people goes up and
down and people go up and down with
their world; warriors have no business
following the ups and downs of their
fellow men.
OH, I thought I read something about it being slashed from the BT site so thought maybe they'd given it the ax.
Don't want to see it axed cause then all that BS would spew out here into the other threads and who the hell wants that!
Doug
so printing segments of the breaktime forum in the magazine provides no benefit to taunton at all? I'm thinking they make a nice profit on the mag and all of teir publications which I have purchased and enjoyed reading many of."it aint the work I mind,
It's the feeling of falling further behind."Bozini Latinihttp://www.ingrainedwoodworking.com
So what's the big deal about a small ad that's attached to the first of 20 posts? It's Tauntons site, they can do what they want with it, just like your eyes are yours, and you can look away from the ad if you so choose.
If you want a hang out that's not controlled by some corporation, go to Quittintime. With no disrespect intended towards Quittintime (or those who have invested time/money in it), there are some huge differences. Taunton brings a lot of traffic to Breaktime which is why it is so popular. Quittintime has much less activity.
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