Different joist heights w/plywood subflr

Just putting in joists for first floor and finding that some joists have say an 1/8 inch difference in height. I intend to install hardwood flooring over the subfloor. Will the difference in joist heights be a problem? What I specifically am looking at is that there is that I am using 12′ and 14′ joist. Where the joists are joined on the carrying beam, the 14′ joist is about 1/8″ higher in many cases.
Thanks for any thoughts
Ron
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Use enough construction adhesive and it probably won't be a problem. But, if you want to fix the situation, get a power planer and plane the joists flush.
Bob
Or shim the short ones.
Edit to add: You might want to take a moisture meter to them. It could be that the tall ones just aren't as dry as the short ones and when they all dry out they'll be the same size. In that case, neither planing nor shimming would be a good idea.
Edited 10/10/2003 12:07:06 PM ET by Uncle Dunc
I plan to use adhesive and 1 1/2" screws. I thought that there probably would be no problem but wanted to check on experience of others
Edited 10/10/2003 12:20:31 PM ET by Ron
Boy an 1/8 of an inch seems like a lot. You screw that down and the subfloor would taper that gap in . . . what . . . 6 or 8 inches? If that is in the middle of your room and some of the joists have this gap and some don't and you put carpet over it ... SO WHAT. Hardwood floor over it?
I am not a hardwood floor man, but as a novice that would make me cock my head.
I echo the moisture meter advice. If the joists shrink differently you'll have squeaks, construction adhesive or not.
What is your subfloor thickness?
If you are going with 3/4", I would recommend a longer screw. This would be especially helpful when you are screwing the ply to joists adjacent the tall ones. Assuming the moisture content of the pieces is where the difference lies, when the tall ones dry out they should even out and you will have a reasonably flat floor. Or the joists could just be different heights, in which case the longer screws will ensure that the ply bears on each joist.
Jon Blakemore
To avoid this in the future use TJI's.
Ron, I am assuming this is a new house or addition. Your joists are drying out, they will shrink much more. Slight differences between joists are not a problem. You may have a problem if the joists are framed into the beam and the beam is a different material. Steel or laminated beams won't shrink, if your joists are wood they probably will shrink an average of 1/2" in depth.You would be a 1/4" low after one heating season, the joists will shrink evenly from the center of the depth to the top and bottom of the beam. Framing lumber is 19% allowable moisture, used to be 12% when my hair was blonde.If you want a perfect floor for the future, rip a sheet of 1/2" plywood for the width of the beam and nail that on. Make sure the finish floor ends do not end up on the 1/2" rip.