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joebevel | Posted in General Discussion on January 19, 2005 03:34am

The doors for the current job showed up today & the hinge screws stick out of the backside of the jamb by 3/4”. These are 3/0- 20 min. solid core Int. doors with heavy duty bearing hinges.

With the screws there is no wiggle room in the r.o. to plumb or on some to even get them in.

Has anyone ever run across this, & would you see a problem with buzzing them off flush with the backside of the jamb with the metabo?

I have installed a lot of doors and have never seen this, but I dont want to cut them if it will somehow affect the integrity of the hinge.

It also sems that the screws are going to interfere with shimming at the hinges. even though 2 of the 4 screws will be replaced with longer ones

Any help would be appreciated

 

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  1. ramboOremods | Jan 19, 2005 04:18am | #1

    Your r/o's should be 3" over the call size of the doors,Yea,grind those babies flush, It'll be better than sawing on them and wiggling them ou of their holes...

    My name here used to be mapache...

     

  2. Piffin | Jan 19, 2005 04:22am | #2

    I haven't seen that either and yes, it does make it a pain...

    But when handed bruised apples, let's make some appljack.

    dismount the door, loosen the hinges, hang tighter to the hinge siode of the jamb, and then you can screw then back in so they grip the stud. You always want a 2-1/2" to 3" screw or two in the top hinge anyways to bear the weight, especially with a heavier door like this...

     

     

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    1. joebevel | Jan 19, 2005 05:58am | #4

      Are you suggesting setting the entire jamb without the slab in it? Or plumb/straighten/shim/install hinge side only, then reinstall slab & finish off.

      The reason I ask is that Ive never set a door without the slab  hinged to the jamb to set the reveals

      The guys setting the steel jamb doors always set without a slab in the jamb, & for the life of me I dont know how they keep the reveals as good as they do

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        IMERC | Jan 19, 2005 06:02am | #6

        set just the buck side aqnd reinstall the slab..

        then finish the job...

        Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

        WOW!!!   What a Ride!

      2. bkhy | Jan 19, 2005 06:23am | #7

        plumb bob---never lies

      3. Piffin | Jan 19, 2005 06:43am | #10

        I prefer to hang with slab in jamb but can do it either way 

         

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      4. maverick | Jan 20, 2005 12:58am | #15

        >>Are you suggesting setting the entire jamb without the slab in it?

        I like to fasten the sill and hinge jamb with a level then hang the slab and shim the strike jamb for reveal

  3. bruceb | Jan 19, 2005 04:26am | #3

     Joe,

              The short version is I would do something like Piffin said. I would pull the door out, back out the screws and hang the frame. I would fasten the hinge side, drive the screws back thru and then rehang the door in the frame and secure the rest of the frame.

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    IMERC | Jan 19, 2005 06:00am | #5

    grind them off or change them out for shorter ones..

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!!   What a Ride!

    1. Piffin | Jan 19, 2005 06:45am | #11

      there you go with easy solutions again...BTW, Fast computer tonight! 

       

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        IMERC | Jan 19, 2005 06:51am | #12

        just the obvious...

        got a typest tonight..    of sorts...

         

         

        but why won't GH answer his emails...

        Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

        WOW!!!   What a Ride!

        1. Piffin | Jan 19, 2005 07:39am | #13

          probably too busy counting fingers 

           

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            IMERC | Jan 20, 2005 12:40am | #14

            he said his hearing was faulty...

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

            WOW!!!   What a Ride!

  5. joeh | Jan 19, 2005 06:36am | #8

    If you take the grinder path, don't over heat them and char the jamb. They won't hold sheet if you do.

    Joe H

  6. DThompson | Jan 19, 2005 06:40am | #9

    Your supplier ran out of the proper length of screws, just change them before anything else. Tell your supplier to smarten up.

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