Need to provide a customer with a price to tear out and rebuild a shower enclosure. I need help estimating the amount of time required for the rebuild. It’s about 4 ft x 5-1/2 ft, three sides are walls, front will be a glass panel and door. I need to take it down to the sub-floor and come back up with mud base, membrane, more base, then tile, and tile up the walls to about 6 ft. I know there’s lots of what-ifs and site specific issues, but roughly how many man hours (or days) am I looking at for the rebuild?
Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell’em “Certainly, I can!” Then get busy and find out how to do it. T. Roosevelt
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I did one that size about three years ago, and here's roughly how it broke down.
Day 1, gut the existing shower and get all the debris to the dump.
Day 2, make some framing repairs, subfloor repairs, furr out the walls plumb.
Day 3, install 3/8" plywood around the entire enclosure, install the clamping drain fitting (plumber picked it up from there in the crawl space), go pick up deck mud etc. at the tile shop.
Day 4, build the curb, install the preslope, install the chlorolloy, fill with water for the inspector.
Day 5, install the setting bed, install poly and CBU on the walls
Day 6, set the floor
Day 7-8, set the walls
Day 9, grout
Day 10, caulk, clean up, etc.
Set up, roll up, and material buying time included. Hope no one else posts to say they could do this in 3 days! Let's see what Boris says.
David's breakdown is roughly for the same amount of days I spent on that glass block job last year. I'd agree it's about 10-12 man-days for a shower that size, especially with tear-out and repair up front.
Betcha Boris can do it in three days, tho....
Dinosaur
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Thanks guys. I almost screwed up on this one ... I was thinking a week. But then I tend to under-estimate anyway. One of these days I'm gonna learn ...
I didn't mention that it's on the second floor of a 1930's house. And the existing shower leaks through into the laundry room. And they suspect that the cast iron pipes may need work.
Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!" Then get busy and find out how to do it. T. Roosevelt
Edited 9/2/2004 11:54 pm ET by Ed Hilton
Add 3 more days and a cost plus for the plumbing repairs..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
Even better ... the plumbing repairs are outside the scope of my work. I'll make access for the plumber, and do what I can to make his job easier, and close it up when he's done.
Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!" Then get busy and find out how to do it. T. Roosevelt
Add margin for him then..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming.... WOW!!! What a Ride!
I tend to under-estimate anyway. One of these days I'm gonna learn ...
No, you won't. Just like me: I never learn either, dammit!
Everytime I finish a job and realize how much I under-estimated, I say the same thing: NEXT TIME I'M GONNA DOUBLE WHAT I THINK IT IS!!! And then of course, when I'm sitting there in front of the next potential client, in a nice, clean environment, everything seems so simple and clear in my head, so I say, ahhhhh...I can do that in, let's see, maybe 12-15 hours....
ARGGGGGHHHHH!!!!Dinosaur
'Y-a-tu de la justice dans ce maudit monde?
It would be a solid week for me and 1-2 guys. Depending on tile, the bill would be in the $7-8 thousand range.
Regards,
Boris
"Sir, I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow" -- WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934