Hi, recently I have been trying to remodel the exterior wall of my home. The problem is, I have already bought all the materials but my proposal for renovation was declined by local authorities. They ask that I have some form of proof stating it will be safe to use solid stones as bricks for the exterior walls of the home. I have included a list of how I will be remodeling the wall so if anyone can give me any suggestions on how to resolve this issue I would greatly appreciate the help. Thank you for your time.
1) The construction materials to be used under the 1st line of the foundation: 6″ Grovel Stone.
2) The construction materials to be used for the area between the ground line and the 1st line of the foundation: Solid Stone with mixed concrete.
3) The construction materials for the wall (up to 92″ above the ground line): solid stone mix.
4) The top section of the wall will be a.) covered by cement b.) 2 coats of water-resistant paint c.) 16″G. Stainless Steel Sheet d.) 2″x6″ G. D. Fir
5) 1 plie of 2″x6″ G.D. Fir will be above the formation.
6) Above the G.D. Fir will be 23/64 water-proof T.M.G. plywood.
7) 4ml plastic sheet will be used between steps 5 and 6.
8) 5/8 T.M.G. plywood will be used on the top of the plywood mentioned in step 6.
9) 3 pieces of 2″x6″ G.D. Fir will be used on the top of the wall (10 feet high).
10) 4 pieces of 2″x6″ G.D.Fir (sleep)
11) The materials for the roof: 2″x12″ G.D. Fir (cut to 2″x6″ angel in 9.5 feet wide)
12) Materials for the roof deck: 1) 4 ml. plastic sheet 2) 5/8 T.M.G plywood 3) 3/8 water-proof and fire-proof sheet 4) 2 coats of water resistant paint 5) 1 sheet of fiber glass 6) after 7 days, apply 2 coats of water resistant paint with fiber glass sheet.
13) Materials for the deck: Galvanized steel piece will be used in the PVC post.
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It sounds like they want an engineer's approval of the plan. I could be mistaken... but that is what I'm getting from your statement.
The structure of your home might not be able to support this, the roof may have issues to be addressed, the foundation may have an issue... the list goes on.
The only way to get your plan approved would be to get an engineer's review and approval, if I am correct.
You may want to clarify with your building dept. as to what specifically they are asking for, and if an engineers review and approval will do the trick for 'em.
I agree with Rich ... you need to spend a little money for a local engineer.
Welcome to the forum. I don't mean to be critical, but man are you over your head. Some of the stuff you mention ... well, I don't understand what you're trying to say ... could just be my inexperience. Rather than trying to list the construction as you did, a detailed drawing would be a big help. That's where the engineer, or an architect, could help.
Here's some things that I don't follow:
1st line of the foundation ... where is that? Grovel stone ... is that a local term? Solid stone with mixed concrete ... is that like a stone wall with concrete for mortar? GD Fir ... ok ... somethings get cursed at times but the lumber? What's the G for?
T.M.G. plywood ... whazzat? Do you mean T&G or tongue & groove? 23/64 ply ... that's not even 3/8" thick ... do you maybe mean 23/32" which is sold as 3/4"
A pvc post for the deck? Doesn't sound very strong.
Sounds like you been watching too much extreme house makeover tv.
Please ... we (the forum) would be very happy to help and advise you. But somethings missing.
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I thought it was just me that couldn't follow. I was beginning to get a complex!! LOL
I have a little drawing I was trying to construct... but after trying to decipher some of the stuff, I gave up.
The answer of the engineer was the obvious one... but I was looking to provide some help with the plan if possible. It's always cheaper to go to the engineer with something that is likely to get a stamp... rather than something that will require a large amount of correction.
Grovel stone ... is that a local term?
I believe that term refers to a personnel mangagement work station.
A structural engineer can furnish the proof, and correct your design if there is a problem.
Is there a poured footing for the stone wall and any provision for tying it to the existing structure?
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Sorry, mate--but I can't follow your plan either. Too many terms I've never heard before and no clear picture of what you're trying to accomplish. But I agree that it does sound like the permit office wants a PE to sign off on it. It occurs to me that if you gave the same descriptive plan to your permitting authority as you posted here, the BI in charge might have had the same problem as us in following it and just decided it was simpler for him to require a stamp, thus covering his butt and eliminating the requirement for him to get the details out of you in a way he could fathom.
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If this is your first permitted job, remember that the people in the permit office want to see things that they have approved before. In other words, if you ask for something different, or in a way they don't easily understand, they just say no and tell you to come back with better info.
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I'm in the same boat as everyone else and probably your local board of approval. The terminology you user is foreign to me.
With some assumptions, it looks to me like you are using slipforms with stone/rock and cement for the foundation. With no testing and no rebar, and no footings mentioned, it is going to be hard for you to get that certified. It would also be helpful to know where you are trying top build this. Flood zones and seismic zones have extra requirements.
The roof system teally befuddles me. It sounds like you are trying to reinvent the wheel there.
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If that was the only concern that the local authorities voiced to you then make it easy on yourself and just use brick or concrete block instead of the stone for the support wall. Then cover it with a facade of the stone for the look you want.
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Maybe they wanted him to agree to use brick ties to the studs.
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