What do you guys usually use to attached 1x fascia (pine) to 2x sub fascia? 6d,8d,galavanized,ss,etc.
Thank as usual.
What do you guys usually use to attached 1x fascia (pine) to 2x sub fascia? 6d,8d,galavanized,ss,etc.
Thank as usual.
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If hand nailing, I use an 8P galvy box nail. If using my Makita coil nailer, it's a 2 and 3/8th" galvanized ring-shank nail. I think that the coil nails are a bit shorter than an 8p box nail, but I haven't had anything fall off yet.
Thank you Sir. So galv. either way?
any exterior nail should always be galvy or SS
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Thanks Guys.
Hey Piffin do you use full headed nails for the fascia on finish nails?
Always use headed nails for exterior trim fastening.
Thanks. What about the scarf joints on the fascia? Do you just nail close to the joint?
If you're nailing by hand -blunt the point of the nail before using so it's less likely to split your piece, then nail within an inch and a half to two inched from the scarf joint.
Thanks.
we use 8d ss siding nails for our trim...
the head is just a little smaller than a framing nail
sometimes we hand-nail.. some times we use a coil sider
ring shank is usual too...
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We use 16guage finish nails and never had a problem.
If hand nailing always liked Maze 8's galv.
i've replaced a lot of exterior trim that was fastened with finish nails... either the nails pull out ..... or the trim pulls off and leaves the nail behindMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
or the nails rust off.
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"We use 16guage finish nails and never had a problem."Are you sure there is no problem?I get to repair a lot of loose trim that others have installed 8-12 years ago put on with finish nails. Maybe the callbacks just go to someone else.
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Havedone on my own house and shed. Never a problem yet!
i have to agree headed nail always outside unless im using pvc trim then ill use the 15 ga trim gun
I will tell all of you again. I have had no trouble with 16guage finish gun on exterior trim. I have had to remove this upon occassion, and I can tell you, it is hard to do. Of course I use plenty of nails. By the way these are galvanized with no chance of corroding.
"galvanized with no chance of corroding."Guess again!Finish nails out of a gun are elctro plated only and they do regularly rust. Just the friction of the gun driving them can scratch that minimal zinc off.
Don't kid yourself.
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Well, I will again make the statement, I have never had a problem. Probably run in excess of a mile of cedar, vinyl and pine facia, still waiting for the first problem relating from using the 16guage finish nails.
You're telling me that you run vinyl with a finish gun?!!!!
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I have never lived in a climate where a headless nail will hold exterior finish on. Fascia is the hardest.We use mostly ring shank stainless steel trimheaded nails. They are smaller heads and shanks than a framing 8d, but enough head to hold the wood on.
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Definitely galvy. If your budget allows, an 8p ss ring shank would be even better.
Thanks again.
Second galvy 8Ds. You could get by with 15 gauge trim nails as well, the stainless flavors dont cost as much as stainless framing nails (but expensive either way--fastenerusa.com is a good source for pneumatic nails in all types of finishes for all types of guns), also, less likely to split butt ends. I've only personaly hung Miratec which requires a framing nail.
Edited 2/2/2009 6:30 pm ET by arcflash
Maze ring shank splitless 8d nails.
Pine for exterior trim? In my area, I'm not sure it would last long enough to warrant any special nail like stainless.
Probably not in Michigan. But here in Texas it should do fine. What do you use for exterior trim btw?
I like either cedar or smart trim
This is to ALL. I'm not smart enough to Post it to ALL.
It's been a while since I have driven any nails, (just design um and draw um now days) but we used what we called an 8d casing head nail for 3/4" fascia and 16d casing head nail for 1&1/2" fascia. ( always galvanized of course). Although it looks similar to a finish nail, it seemed to be a bit heftier than a finish nail. The head seemed a bit larger than a true finish nail. I don't know if this is because of the galvanizing or not. This may be what you are calling a finish nail. A finish nail is what we used for interior trim.
I looked in one of my old reference books and it showed both casing nails and firnish nails as different and distinct nails, but did not note their specific differences as to diamenters, head size etc. It showed finish nails sizes 2d thru 20d and casing nails 2d thru 40d.
Can you imagine what the interior trim would look like that required a 40d finish nail.
It shows 48 different styles/types of nails with 20 different heads and 10 different points. This was an old 1980 publication of "Architectural Graphic Standards".
I doubt that all of these type nails are still available. Did not even mention gun nails.
Not your imagination. The heads on a casing nail are larger than a finish nail. I used to hang a lot of doors with casing 16d
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Piffin. What do you use now? Oops
what's the current edition ?
wonder if it's worth having with all the stuff we have on -line now Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
The edition I am currently use is the 9th edition published in 1994. I paid $210.00 for it. I'm sure that there is more up to date info. in the newer additions. I don't remember what the cost of a more current edition is, but the last time I thought about getting one, I just remember that when I saw the price, I had a fainting spell.
Depending on just what you do (couldn't tell by your profile) can't say if it would be worth it or not. I know that in my design build business, I gotten my money's worth many times over. The amount of information is great. I was even able to used it to do a Little League Baseball field for my Optimist Club.
i have the 6th edition and the 7th edition.... and Time Saver Standards (4th ed.)
but almost all the information is pretty much the same
and the codes are usually prescriptive......
Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Which graphics standards?There is this guy named Palladio...Oops - SS siding nails, ringers
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Boy did I get lost on that sidecar....For hanging ext doors now I use trimhead screws from GRK
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heck....
<<<This was an old 1980 publication of "Architectural Graphic Standards".>>>
that's not old.....my 6th edition is from 1970
when i started we could still buy nails in wooden kegsMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
MikeSmith. I had a 1954 edition. Unfortunately, in a careless non-thinking moment, I gave it away about four years ago. Regretted ever since. Oops