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Flat House Roofs in SW

Clewless1 | Posted in Construction Techniques on December 10, 2010 09:39am

A friend has a house in NM … typical of thousands of houses in that area … stucco SW style w/ flat roofs, parapet walls, and scuppers for drainage. However, when they get snows, it tends to ice up the scupper through freeze/thaw cycles. This increases the chances for leaking.

I know the flat roof is classic for the desert SW, but there is this issue w/ the scuppers. Can you guys comment on this? How did flat roofs get started in use if there would always be issues with drainage?

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    MarkH | Dec 10, 2010 12:08pm | #1

    New scuppers ain't what they used to be.

    Old houses probably had no insulation, and the roofs didn't freeze.

    Old dobies probably always leaked.

  2. semar | Dec 10, 2010 07:58pm | #2

    flat roof drainage

    same problem here in Pacific NW with flat roofs.

    Solution one: build pitched roof  (not economical)

    Solution two: Shovel snow off right away

    Solution three: Heating cables (expensive but effective)  I see those on steep driveways on North Shore homes

    Are the roofs in SW designed for any snowfall at all?  Does'nt matter: if you have too much snow on the roof it is always a problem. The sooner you get it off the better

    1. DanH | Dec 10, 2010 09:26pm | #3

      Heat cables aren't really that expensive.  The trick is to only run them when they're needed (when temps are near 32), and only have enough cable to maintain an opening, vs trying to melt the whole roof.

      1. Piffin | Dec 12, 2010 10:10pm | #4

        "The trick is to only run them when they're needed (when temps are near 32), "

        That is not special trick. All roof heat cables I have ever seen had in line thermostats so the only make heat below something like 36°F

        1. DanH | Dec 12, 2010 10:39pm | #5

          Well, you haven't seen all roof heat cables, then -- many don't have thermostats.  And you don't need the heat below about 25F.  Though the precise temp range depends on sunlight exposure, et al.

          1. Piffin | Dec 12, 2010 11:01pm | #6

            I suppose in this chinese import day and age where everything is dumbed down, that there are manufacturers who do away with the thermostat to save money, and there may even be HOs and pros dumb enough to install such cheap ones. Why - I can't imagine.

            "And you don't need the heat below about 25F. "

            That's right. How stoopid of me after fifteen years roofing in the SW, how ould I have foirgotten that snow melts itself off once you get things that cccccold.

          2. DanH | Dec 12, 2010 11:10pm | #7

            The cables have been sold without thermostats for 35 years that I know about  -- well before Chinese imports.

            And, yes, you do not need the heat below about 25F.  The purpose of the heat is to provide a channel for meltwater to run off, not to melt the snow.  No meltwater -- no need for heat.

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