Framing gun advice
Do different pneumatic nail guns shoot larger diameter nails than my Paslode .131 nails. The biggest nails available for my Paslode, look at best to resemble a 10d. Are there nailers that shoot larger nails, or do most framing nailers shoot about the same size nail (diameter in particular)?
Many nailer manufacturers sell nailers that will shoot up to a .162 x 3-1/2 nail or 16 common. Try looking at Hitachi, Bostich, Senco, Duo-Fast, Max etc. To get a quick overview go to amazon.com and check their selection. In addition, the Paslode 350-s nailer will shoot up to a .148 x 3-1/2 nail.
Edited 4/1/2007 8:05 pm ET by framerboy
I will do that. Paslode tells me the 3" .131 nail is enough to attach 2X PT decking. Looking at the nail, I'm not so sure. Seems I would need a nail at least as big as a 16d galv spiral.I'm in the market for a pneumatic nailer - will give the Bostich a look.thanks, Carl
Try ebay item number 260102534806. Reconditioned Bostitch.
Are you looking to use the 2x's as the decking or for the structure of the deck? If you using it as decking, I would advise against. It really does not do very well as decking, it drys, cups, splinters everywhere, etc.Whatever you are using these nails for, they will work very well. 3 1/4" is plenty for framing. You'll have joist hangers, lagged ledger board and maybe a beam for carrying the loads of the deck, you not using the nails to carry loads. Get a strip of 3 1/4" spirals and nails some 2x's and see how easy they come apart. They will not easily.Also, I believe gun nails are a little thinner than common nails but they are still fine to use.
I am replacing 5/4 with 2X6 pt. The 5/4 in our area looks like crap: Hand picked the entire load from Menards - the flat of this lumber is tight-grained with little or no knots. Carl
I'm a homeowner looking at purchasing a framing nailer for building a new deck and shed. I have been leaning toward the Hitatchi NR83A, but now not sure if it will meet nail size requirements for framing. I'm new to the world of framing so I have started reading about framing. A lot of the material I read mentions using 16d nails, which I believe is larger than the 3 1/4" 0.131 nails the Hitatchi shoots. So now I'm wondering if I should be looking at a framing gun which can handle a larger 3 1/2" nail? In the future as my skills grow I would like to build an addition on my attatched gargage so I have a workshop area. It would be nice to purchase a framing gun which will handle my current and future needs.
I frame in Southern California and the Hitachi NR83A is a very common nailer out here. In the residential market the most common nail size is the 16 short or .131 x 3-1/4. We use three nails into the ends of 2x4's and 4 nails into the ends of 2x6's. The 16d you refer to are usually 16 commons which are .162 x 3-1/2. These are not called for except for the occasional commercial building or public buildings such as schools. Hitachi does make a nailer that will accept this size. As an aside, we never install decking with a nailer, we always screw it down. For general framing, I feel a nailer that uses the .131. x 3-1/4 nail size will be fine. Others will be along to weigh in I am sure. We are real opinionated about what we do.
If your looking for a good all around framing nailer that will do everything except heavy framing, I would look at the hitachi coil nailer. I think it is the NV75 which can do a variety of tasks from decking to siding, to framing. Its a coil nailer so it hold a lot more nails at a time which is nice and hitachi guns are great. It only goes up to 3" nails though. Where are you, fill in your location. For a shed, etc. 3" should be fine depending on your codes.For decking, fences, etc. you can use SS ring nails. I would not use the NR83A for that. I have the original NR83A with no depth setting and its a great framer, indestructible. But it is a framer and is not good for tasks like decking, fences, siding. For those things, I would use a siding nailer or NV75 nailer with a consistent depth set.
I get paslodes 3-1/4" long with no trouble
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Yes, but even the 3 1/4 looks thin in comparison to common, sinker or box nails. The head on the Paslode nail, although now round, is small.I shot a couple into 2X decking and they looked more suitable for the balustrade.thanks, Carl