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Framing kitchen peninsula pony wall

mackzully | Posted in Construction Techniques on May 15, 2009 06:31am

Howdy all-
I’m curious if there are any tips or tricks to building a pony wall for a kitchen peninsula. The entire countertop will be at counter height (i.e. no “bar”), and it will be roughly 4′ wide, and probably SS or butcher block if all goes well.

Obviously 24″ of the counter will be supported by the kitchen cabs, so then do you just frame a standard 2×4 wall? The wall will run parallel to the floor joists and will sit between them. The existing subfloor is 3/4″ pine TG, but I will be most likely doing either tile or a sheet good floor in the kitchen, so I have the opportunity to lay new 3/4″ advantech subfloor over the existing floor, and extend it out so that the pony wall will sit on top it and have a more rigid base to sit atop.

Should the pony wall be reinforced in any other special way? Would running all thread from the top of the wall, down through the floor to blocking between the joists be a good idea?

Thanks,
Z

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  1. Marson | May 15, 2009 09:28pm | #1

    I would run the end stud(s) through the sub floor and tie it to either a piece of blocking or a joist below. That is, if you have access to below. I would also make sure to have some provisions for adjusting the height of this wall after you get your cabinets. Might add and extra plate or two which could be removed once you are setting cabinets. All depends on how it ultimately gets trimmed out.

    1. mackzully | May 15, 2009 09:34pm | #2

      Good point. I'd not thought about how to level it up with the cabinets/finished flooring once in. If I ran the studs long through the floor and bolted them there, could I just leave them short of the expected finish level minus 3" then create a sliding top plate type wall that I could adjust, the screw and glue to the braced studs? Thanks,
      Z

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    PeterJ | May 15, 2009 10:42pm | #3

    Why not just put a finished back on the cabs, or 12" base cabs on backside if you can afford the space? Attach the cabs to cleats on floor at the loose end.

    Far more common in these parts, and easier to fix when client decides they want an island instead of pennisula.

     

    Everything will be okay in the end.  If it's not okay, it's not the end. 

    1. stevent1 | May 15, 2009 11:20pm | #4

      Peter,You are right. The only time I build a pony wall is when MEPS runs through the wall.Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood

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