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   davidmeiland | Apr 11, 2009 10:28pm | #1

   Not really. Too short and too thin.

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   dieselpig | Apr 11, 2009 10:30pm | #2

   Not really... for through nailing 2x material you really want to be using at least a 3" nail at .131 diameter.  I suggest you either rent a framing nailer or consider using screws.

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   Edited 4/12/2009 8:59 am ET by dieselpig

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   Ted W. | Apr 12, 2009 02:12am | #7

   If screws and if toenailing (toe-screwing?), be sure to predrill or you'll turn the end of your studs to splinters.~ Ted W ~

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   Biff_Loman | Apr 12, 2009 03:26pm | #12

   I don't find that necessary - at all - with ordinary #8 screws in SPF. I mean, every now and then I'll get a split, and every now and then I'll goof with the air nailer and get a split, too.

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   Ted W. | Apr 12, 2009 05:33pm | #16

   I don't find that necessary - at all - with ordinary #8 screws in SPF. I mean, every now and then I'll get a split, and every now and then I'll goof with the air nailer and get a split, too.

   Ya hafta predrill for them too.~ Ted W ~

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   oops | Apr 11, 2009 10:55pm | #3

   No more than what you will be doing, just get out the old hammer.

   Plates to studs, end nail  (2-16d nails) or toe nail  (3-8d nails)

   It's in the book (The above is per International Residential Code)

   
   

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   Edited 4/11/2009 9:13 pm ET by oops

4. 
   jayzog | Apr 12, 2009 01:53am | #4

   2½" is plenty for toenailing, its only a closet, thumbtacks and bubblegum is sufficient.

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   dieselpig | Apr 12, 2009 01:56am | #5

   What about nailing the plates down (and up)?  Or sistering kings and jacks?  I dunno... I think I'd either use my hammer, rent a proper nailer, or just use some screws.  Like you said... just a closet... but it would help if it stayed where he put it!  ;)View Image

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   EricPaulson | Apr 12, 2009 02:05am | #6

   Hey! This is Breaktime.

   No argueing allowed here!

     

    

   "When the spirits are low, when the day appears dark, when work becomes monotonous, when hope hardly seems worth having, just mount a bicycle and go out for a spin down the road, without thought on anything but the ride you are taking." — Sherlock Holmes, 1896

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   Henley | Apr 12, 2009 02:40pm | #11

   You heard it here! Dieselpig uses screws when framing.
   Maybe we should start a thread...

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   apiersma | Apr 12, 2009 05:21am | #9

   Bubble gum is the winner. Is grape flavor up to code?I think I'll just use screws, renting a framer for a closet seems excessive. Thanks all.

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   USAnigel | Apr 12, 2009 03:18am | #8

   Build it out of pylwood and get max room!

   2 1/2" nails are on the short side for framing.

   
   

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   Edited 4/11/2009 8:19 pm ET by USAnigel

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   Framer | Apr 12, 2009 03:57pm | #13

   2 1/2" nails are on the short side for framing.

   Not true. They are used every day when toenailing studs top and bottom.

    

    

    Joe Carola

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   fingersandtoes | Apr 12, 2009 05:02pm | #15

   How is your hand? Grip strength returning ok?

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   Framer | Apr 12, 2009 05:35pm | #17

   It's getting there slowly Thank you for asking. My grip strength is at 105lbs now. Last month it was 60lbs. Still can't make a fist yet. When I exercise my fingers I can about 90%. Waking up in the morning is tight if I don't tape my fingers overnight.

    Joe Carola

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   dieselpig | Apr 12, 2009 10:03pm | #18

   Joe, I missed it.  What happened to your hand man?View Image

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   Biff_Loman | Apr 12, 2009 10:24pm | #19

   Snowblower.

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   dieselpig | Apr 12, 2009 10:28pm | #20

   Yuck.  That's gotta be messy.View Image

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   Piffin | Apr 12, 2009 10:52pm | #22

   Yeah, that snowblower is really messed up now cause Joe's so tough!;)Seriously, it's an injury that commonly takes those three fingers right off. His were broken and bloody i s all. 

    

   Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

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   fingersandtoes | Apr 12, 2009 11:02pm | #23

   Excellent progress! These things take time. I'd say my finger kept healing for two years.

   Happy Easter.

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   Pelipeth | Apr 12, 2009 02:25pm | #10

   Screw it together------

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   frenchy | Apr 12, 2009 04:09pm | #14

   I suggest that for a closet you might get away with glue and nails that short..   Use care to make sure the nails will be equally split between the two woods..   

    If you are going to use  screws please remember to predrill the first piece of wood inorder to get a secure joint..  Just ramming screws into wood  you risk a standoff situation. 

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   popawheelie | Apr 12, 2009 10:42pm | #21

   There is nothing wrong with nailing by hand. Do yourself a favor and get sinkers to frame with. They are the nails coated with a green/brown coating.

   A good framing hammer would help also.

   I used to have a Hitachi framer but sold it because I don't need it. Hand nailing works fine for me.

   "There are three kinds of men: The one that learns by reading, the few who learn by observation and the rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves."
   Will Rogers