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Help Designing A Three Seasons Room

shoppit | Posted in Construction Techniques on August 29, 2004 07:14am

I’m finally getting the time to finish a three seasons room I started last year, when I built the deck and roof.  Now that I’ve found windows that I like, I ready to frame, but I still have some decisions to make.

1) There is 8’5″ from the deck to the joists above the posts.  The maximum window size is 7′, so the minimum kneewall height is 1’5″.  Although I want the maximum amount of window screen opening, 1’5″ looks pretty low.  Would I do better to make the kneewalls 2′ or 2’6″?

2) I want to put a door between the three seasons room and an attached outdoor deck that’s a step down.  I’m tempted to place the door next to the house (position A) to maximize floor space, but I’m also afraid it’s too tight a corner.  The option would be more central, next to the first post (position B).  Opinions, please?

I’m attaching a link to a bitmap that shows the layout.  If the attachment fails, it’s at:

http://shoppit.home.comcast.net/deck.bmp

Thanks for the help.

 

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  1. shoppit | Aug 29, 2004 07:22am | #1

    Midnight postitis.  Position A is near the center of the wall and position B is against the house in my diagram.  BTW, when I viewed the bitmap using IE6, it appears chopped up when it first opens, but fills in when enlarged.

  2. MojoMan | Aug 29, 2004 01:59pm | #2

    How high above grade is the deck? You might need 36" kneewalls so someone falling through the screen can't fall off the deck.

    Al Mollitor, Sharon MA

  3. Piffin | Aug 29, 2004 03:15pm | #3

    probably position A for the door.

    if the glass is less than 18" above the floor, you need tempered glass for many codes and insurance satisfaction. you mention 15" which seems to be to framed RO so the glass itself might just be high enough to get by. Check that out carefully

     

     

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    1. shoppit | Aug 30, 2004 05:23am | #4

      The deck is 30" above grade.  The windows have four sashes on four tracks, plus a screen.

      1. Piffin | Aug 30, 2004 05:36am | #5

        i'm talking about distance from bottom of glass to floor - interior

        but in regards to the additional info - a deck that high off ground needs a railing. 

         

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        1. shoppit | Aug 30, 2004 05:56am | #6

          Actually, the windows use a clear vinyl, not glass.  The sash frame width is about a coupe inches, so the distance from the deck to the window will really be determined by the kneewall height I choose.

          1. FastEddie1 | Aug 30, 2004 07:22am | #7

            Where did you find the windows?Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!"  Then get busy and find out how to do it.  T. Roosevelt

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