I am in the process of building my own house. Nothing has happened yet but the plans being delivered and getting bids. Among the many “white-outs” that I made on the blue prints were bumping out the family room 5 more feet so that I could have nice rumford fireplace in the large family room. The original plans had a small bump-out for a prefabbed fireplace with a direct vent out the wall. The bump-out was toward the exterior. This room is a nice large one and DEMANDS a “statement” fireplace. The problem now is that I am not sure how the rimford will sit in there. It is a slab foundation. Does it need to be flush with the inside wall or set outside the exterior wall. Should the concrete guys recess the concrete about 4 inches to alow brick to flush out with the slab. Do most masons know how this will work. Do most masons know how to builsd a rumford. I guess I need to get with a mason huh? thanks
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Yes, you need to speak with masons in your area but you can fit a Rumsford into nearly the same depth as a metal prefab because one of the features of the Rumsford is that it is shalow. It is the heaight that differs and the angles of the back walls.
Slab on grade will have a thickend edge anyway. That thickness should extend to lie entirely under the masonry mass with rebar passing through @ 12" OC.
If it is a two story or higher, the added mass might mean that you need a separate footer.
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wow, piffin does reply to Every post! thank God we have someone who truly "knows it all!" and it was within 15 minutes of the first post too! Everybody raised their glass and chug!
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How 'bout one of these? How far from Connecticut are you?
Rod
Schmidt has the proportions of a real Rumsford, more so than any of the others, it looks like. Lassow is the one I like best for period apperance and style.
Great Works All!.
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The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are."
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Thanks Piffin,
I appreciate the comments. I also worked on the mahogany surround of Lassows. Spent almost 2 years on that job, from the brick foundation, 4 fireplaces, oak timber frame kitchen, wainscoting, and everything in between. I'm quite proud of that job.
Here's a picture of Schmidts, also a period job. The timber frame was taken down, and relocated. Six fireplaces in this one. (5 in main house, 1 in addition).
Piffin, if I read these posts correctly, you're from up Maine area. (I know, Down East, but up from Connecticut). I was born in Lincoln, Maine. Been in Connecticut most of my life, but I'm still a Mainer, they can't take that away from me. Always thought about heading back up.
Rod
I built my own in my house just a year ago. Got all my info from Superior Clay's website (dimensions, etc) Bought all the materials from them as well such as throat curves and liners. Works great!
Get Count Rumford's book as well as its vital for understanding the design.
Make sure you local code accepts the design as well as they are more shallow than a standard design.
Mike
Be aware that fireplace dynamics can be significantly affected by how tight the building envelope is, and there is a reason for the move away from open fireplaces!
Be sure that the fireplace design/function will work with the envelope specs
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my friend, you are in luck. find the following book:
"the forgotten art of building a good fireplace"
by vrest orton
yankee books publishing box c3fp depot square peterborough nh 03458
my old copy was preweb so no web address. good luck.
FYI
This is a list of masons in that claim to build rumford fireplaces.
http://bricknet.com/mason.html