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Into Each Life a Little Rain Must Fall

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BobSmalser | Posted in General Discussion on April 16, 2004 12:43pm

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“Naw….those fresh batteries for the metal detector can wait until lunch….after all, this is an upper log I’m milling.â€

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“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think…that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ –John Ruskin.

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  1. User avater
    BossHog | Apr 16, 2004 12:48am | #1

    What I wanna see is a picture of the saw blade...

    When you've seen one shopping center you've seen a mall.

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      BobSmalser | Apr 16, 2004 12:58am | #2

      See the kerf 'tween hammer and cat's paw?  It stops abruptly.

       

      The blade just needs new carbide tips is all....I'll braze them on tonite.

       

      No real damage....what you don't see is the leather split-leg apron, the Mac-T hard hat with face shield, and the kevlar chaps.

       

      It's sawyer humor, lads, humor....no big deal...happens occasionally to the terminally overconfident.

       

      Edited 4/15/2004 6:09 pm ET by Bob Smalser

  2. andybuildz | Apr 16, 2004 01:33am | #3

    Bob

          Those boards look seriously sweet....Whatcha gonna use em' for....floors did ya say....just a hunch.

    Be older n dirt

                        --> andy

    My life is my passion!

    http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

    1. tenpenny | Apr 16, 2004 01:55am | #4

      And that's a railroad spike; why would someone take the effort to hammer that sucker in.....

      1. Treetalk | Apr 16, 2004 02:22am | #5

        Youd be amazed at the stuff ive seen sawing logs.Chain links,eyebolts, lags,fence insulaters.Thats why i like my mill where i push the carriage ...the sound of blade hitting metal is totally recognizable now. Luckily sometimes u can see signs of imbedded objects from distortions in the grain or mineral discolorations.;depending on how thick the boards ur sawing.At $14 @ blade which is cheaperthan my woodshop mill its still better than retoothing a circular saw blade.

        Wierdest one ive encountered was 6 galv. finish nails in the center of a poplar log 16' up ; and it was from the middle of the woods.!

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          BobSmalser | Apr 16, 2004 02:32am | #6

          When you start hitting soft bullets, watch out for the nail holding up the target.

          Cement and all manner of hardware are common in house site trees...watch out for the old, forgotten hammer left setting in a crotch.But in these days of metal detectors and safer band or carbide-tipped blades, it isn't all that big a deal...more and more "urban" forester-sawyers go into business every day.I hit it a second time, of course with the chain saw when probing for it....but I expect that with hardware.I was just dumb enuf to assume the upper logs were clear, as running the metal detector at each board deck requires shutting off the mill and removing hard hat and ear plugs.I've found porcelain electrical insulators 36" deep in a 48" maple, and railroad spikes like this one are common as these woods were all laced with Shay mountain railways when the old-growth was first cut in the 1930's....this one probably held some sort of lantern or light 15' up in the tree.

          The straight-grained stock is flooring and stair treads, the twisty stock will be turning squares and blocks.

          “When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin.

          Edited 4/15/2004 7:34 pm ET by Bob Smalser

          1. JohnSprung | Apr 16, 2004 02:56am | #7

            Could you count rings and figure out roughly the time period when the spike was put in?  Is there a visible difference between rings it was driven through and rings that grew around it?

            The other source of embedded metal is environmentalists who do it specifically to hurt loggers and sawyers.

            -- J.S.

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            BobSmalser | Apr 16, 2004 03:01am | #8

            This is logging country where every third household has some hand in the timber business...spiking trees around here is hazardous to the health...and Volvos, Priuses and hippie vans attract the eye, eh?

            But this one was driven 50 or so years ago...it probably held a lantern.

            “When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin.

            Edited 4/15/2004 8:03 pm ET by Bob Smalser

          3. WayneL5 | Apr 17, 2004 09:07pm | #18

            36" deep in a 48" tree?  If it was put in in only the last couple of years it could have been 47½" deep in a 48" tree!

  3. hasbeen | Apr 16, 2004 04:03am | #9

    The most unusual thing I've seen grown into a tree was a bicycle.  Looked to be of 50's vintage, about ten feet off the ground, completely grown into a large fir on Vashon Island, WA.

    Something is what it does.

  4. ClayS | Apr 16, 2004 05:08pm | #10

    What is the wood? fir, hem, red oak, redwood?

     Clay

    1. rez | Apr 16, 2004 05:21pm | #11

      Sure looks like redwood. Wish that whole setup was in my back yard right now.

      "just nail that board up there!!!"

       

      "look, lady..."

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      BobSmalser | Apr 16, 2004 09:38pm | #12

      Pacific Madrone.  Arbutus medeissi.

      Here's a copy of the original post I had handy:

      http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=8669“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin.

      1. Treetalk | Apr 17, 2004 02:58am | #13

        Hey Bob...How do u like that Lucas Rig? I saw on a Lumbermate which i keep in a fixed location . Does pretty good for what i need altho the dogging system is a lil lax.

        They used shays around here.In fact theres 4 running ones about an hour from here that take u up to highest pt. in state at an incredible grade. They also have a lumber camp set up with mosy the original equipment.most amazing thing is steam driven donkey unit with 70' boom that they said they could pull stuff from a mile around it.U could imagine the spider web of horrendous skid paths leading back to it.The snatch block would be all a pickup could haul.love stuff like that.

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          BobSmalser | Apr 17, 2004 03:13am | #14

          Love the Lucas...have had it since '98 when they were fairly new.

          Look at the Petersons, tho, if you are thinking about buying one...they've solved the one irritant with the Lucas...cutting double-wide boards w/o turning the powerhead.

          Here's what the Lucas does best:

          http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/readarticle.pl?dir=shop&file=articles_291.shtml“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin.

      2. ClayS | Apr 17, 2004 04:47am | #15

        Hi Bob. Thanks for the reply and all the nice information, now an hour later I'm wondering how do you get- or find the time to do all this clicking and still make all that saw dust?

         Clay

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          BobSmalser | Apr 17, 2004 03:53pm | #16

          I don't watch TV at night.“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin.

          1. ClayS | Apr 17, 2004 06:50pm | #17

            Now why didn't I think of that.

             LCFABL pronounced lickfabel. (little changes for a better life)

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