Is poplar a good choice for painted cabinet face frames and stiles and rails cabinet doors?
Would a oil base primer be the best choice?
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Poplar is fine for face frames. Been making cabinets with them for a long time. I like working with poplar.
I am not sure about the oaint. I try to avoid painting.
There is not much better.
I like Cover stain ( oil base)
or Shellac based B.I.N.
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Poplar is an excellent choice. Whatever primer you use, give it a very light sandinfg after it has dried. Follow that up with a vacuuming, and then wipe it with a tack cloth. Then you are ready for paint.
Might I recommend Benjamin Moore's Alkyd "Satin Impervo" as you paint choice. In my opinion, there is nothing finer to use on wood/trimwork. It's pricey (around $ 40.00 per gallon), but well worth it. On cabinet doors, I paint the rails and stiles first, then the middle panel.
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I'll second that Satin Impervo is among the best for trim. For cabinets, I spray the paint whenever possible, to avoid the texture brushing leaves behind. but with Satin Impervo and a good quality china bristle brush, the brush texture is minimal anyway. Lay it on as thin as possible and plan on at least 2 coats. I prefer to do three.See my work at TedsCarpentry.comBuy Cheap Tools! BuildersTools.net
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I started using Satin Impervo a year ago based on advice here and now I wouldn't consider using anything else. It's great. Thin with floetrol and a little water and I spray it on with my HVLP conversion gun. Two coats. Flawless, durable, easy to clean surface.
>>Thin with floetrol and a little water<<I'm guessing you are talking about the water-based Satin Impervo. I use the water-based fresh-start primer under it though.I much prefer the oil for woodwork. I also prefer a brushed-on look to sprayed. "Hand of the maker" and all that...Steve
Edited 11/25/2008 12:59 pm by mmoogie
I use both poplar and soft maple. depends upon application. Maple is more expensive but takes the hits a little better. Poplar works very well and holds up fine too. Never had complaints about it, and have been happy with the results....
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Poplar is a great wood to work with but remember that it has a very short lifespan in exterior applications... fyi.
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can't remember the last exterior face frame I did.in fact...;)
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i didnt mean to imply that there would be exterior cabinets but just a reminder that poplar is a bad exterior wood so that anyone reading along on how great poplar is would know that.
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Why is poplar bad for outside trim?BruceT
Old poplar seemed to hold up here in NW OH when it was detailed properly. 'The new stuff not so much. But, alot of it is in the detailing. I'm guessing it's propensity to suck up moisture (seems to grow around here alot in the wetlands) has something to do with it. Sills for instance are a real bad place/along with side casings. Something that works like it that is much better exterior is Cypress.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
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It seems it has to be old growth heart wood to last, my rake trim, and shingle mold is still good, from before the civil war.
It's also common around here, to see poplar that are beams and such under old churches and schoolhouses, that as long as not in ground contact, are still sound beams..bugs leave it alone, but get it in the dirt and it rots.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Well, that's a relief. I just made a mailbox out of poplar for my MIL. It's mounted under a porch roof in SoCal, so it won't ever get wet.BruceT
You'll be fine.
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My guess would be that the old polar would stand up better than the new pine anyday, when detailed right....
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Old growth I think was pretty area specific in the 1800's. Woods used here from that era include poplar. It is not unusual to see it from frame to finish/inside and out.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
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Paul,
As others have said poplar works very well. It is fairly soft though. It will get dinged up by pots and glasses and plates going in and out of the cabinets and mops at floor height and such. I know because my own cabinets after 8 years have developed a little patina. Maple is much harder, and a pleasure to work with as well.
Steve
Edited 11/25/2008 1:00 pm by mmoogie
Works great. However it'll fuzz on cope and stick joints, but a little sandpaper will cure that. Soft maple is, IMHO, better as it takes paint better. Watch the real dark areas as they can blow out when planing or running joints. Pretty similar in price down here for 4/4 or 5/4 S2S.
I like Sherwin-Williams ProClassic 100% pure acrylic. And their primer. No smell like oil, and it holds up just as well with no yellowing. Sprays great thinned 10%, and can be rolled with a smooth roller so it looks just like sprayed.
Yes. I find it better than the white ash we can get locally (which seems to be half-bred to balsa some days).
Edited 11/25/2008 4:13 pm by CapnMac
We starting using European Beech, We like it
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I think poplar is a popular wood for situations which call for painting.
We have it at our home depot
I don't think they sell maple
So you would have a choice of buying poplar, oak, or pine at our local home depot if I remember correctly
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Yet another reason to support an independent concern that would afford you some "exotics" that might hold up to the elements with proper detailing.
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