Doing a plywood nailing inspction and the BI looks at the wall cross section and says the print shows 1/2″ ply yours says 15/32 you will have to get your engineer to write a blanket exclusion for all of you houses.What do you think?
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I think now I've heard it all.
Might be worth a call to his boss.
Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success.
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do they even make a true 1/2" sheathing ply?
i bet the industry standard has a tolerance that is greater that 1/32 inch. look up the ansi standard and show it to him
Edited 2/10/2006 7:50 pm ET by mcf
Just wait till he discovers that 2x4's aren't...
Never underestimate your ability to overestimate your ability
<<Just wait till he discovers that 2x4's aren't...>>Now you just had to go and say that . . . this poor guy isn't going to get ANYTHING built now. <G>You don't suppose we ought to call his inspector and tell him about all those masonry products, do you?Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success.
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(1875-1965)
I know that building inspector, his brother works at walmart
His brother must be the smart one.
His boss thought it may have been pushing it also. He's thinking about it over the weekend and will get back with me on monday.
Now I'm 35 and and have been on jobs since I was 4 or 5 and cant remember when it didnt say 15/32
Wet the ply with a hose..then use calipers..tell him it now is .500 will that do?
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Better yet, tell the guy that the rental place was all out of plywood thickeners the day you supposed to thicken the plywood, so you just went ahead and installed it as is. Maybe if you get on your knees and beg he'll understand...but don't let this happen again.
Tell BI you had to, as the building was 1/16" too wide.
(edited for spelling)
"Citius, Altius, Fortius"
Edited 2/10/2006 10:34 pm by Heck
oooo, now thats good."A bore is a man who, when you ask him how he is, tells you." -Bert Taylor
Sounds like he works at home depot in his spare time.
Tell him you'll be happy to appeal his findings to the state board if he can endure the embarrassment that will follow.
Then suggest "we let each other off the hook"
I had something similar happen to me a few years ago while framing a large custom home. Plans called for 2x8 rafters, but to get the real long lengths I wanted to use I bought 2x10's. Inspector turned the roof down because he said that I had "introduced" structural ramifications to the building envelope that would have to be addressed by the engineer of record. After that engineer chatted with our inspector's supervisor, he came out and signed it off. He was red faced and real angry. He told me he couldn't wait until he inspected my next job. What I hadn't told him was that I had framed his supervisor's home a few years previous. One of those great construction stories, no doubt.
Nice when the contractors win once in a while. Thanks for that one.
Don K.
EJG Homes Renovations - New Construction - Rentals
punch... you might want to think about winning the battle and losing the war..
you and this inspector will be doing business together for along time..
or you might not see him for 5 years.. in either case, you should figure out how to bring him around to being your ally instead of your enemy..
you might say you were so concerned about his comment that you went and did some research and found that all sheathing is 15/32..
he's learning his job... if he's any good , he'll get better.. if not.. give him reason to find fault with someone other than youMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
He can do it and make it stick. He can add more on.
Sounds like hes playing catch up for somthing else thats happened.
The difference in 1/16th will have to be accounted for and cleared by an engineer with a stamp.
After all we need to make sure the building is safe . It might collapse while having a Cowboys Super Bowl party.
Tim
It might collapse while having a Cowboys Super Bowl party. You mean they are insuring a hundred year structure?<smirk>Mike" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
Adam Savage---Mythbusters
That was somthing close to my thoughts yes.
Tim
you mean that it will be a hundred years before the Cowboys make it to the Superbowel?
bobl Volo, non valeo
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Superbowel?HAHAHAHA!!!!!
My Dallas BIL gonna love this one---Place your bets---Dallas or the house falling down---I'll give you Dallas and 8 and half---Mike" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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He must have been trained in Gwinnett county, Georgia. :)
Wait a second, he couldn't have been. Had he been trained in my area he wouldn't have looked at all.
I'll try to console you with an other stupid building inspector story. This one time (and it wasnt at summer camp) I was told to put joist hangers on a trimmer for a cantilivered hallway. I explaned to him that the cactiliver had the bedroom wall, the roof load as well as a span more than 4 times greater than the length of the cantaliever to counter ballance it. My suggestion was to put the hangers on upside down to prevent the trimmer from shearing off if anybody steped on it as there were only 4 or 5 three inch 10d nails per floor joist over the approxamently 12 foot length. He disagreed with me and I ended up with a great story.
FWIW, if you look in the APA .pdf on structural panel details, there are several spots where 1/2 and 15/32 are equated:
http://www.apawood.org/pdfs/download_pdf.cfm?PDFFilename=managed/E30WALL.pdf
See, e.g., p 5 and p 10
Our system has changed somewhat.
We used to get stuck with the same inspector throughout a job. That was very bad if you got an armhole, like I did once. Or was really good if the guy has that elusive quality............common sense. ( like my current job )
Things changed however, now we dont know who we will get. Last job I had 3 different inspectors. I asked how come and was told it was to avoid personality clashes and being stuck with it and also to avoid anyone getting overly familiar and letting things slide that they shouldnt. Cant fault any of that.
But all that said, my current inspector has been the same right through. Nice Irish fella, tons of common sense and he used to swing a hammer so knows the problems we face. If he had been an armhole I am sure a phonecall would have had things getting changed around.
Whatever it was.................I didnt do it.
Thanks for the post of the apa web site found some good info there. Mon morning his boss tells him that he willl adhere to industry standards. His co workers tell me that he is pissed. We'll see got another inspection with him tommorrow.
>>Thanks for the post of the apa web site found some good info there. Mon morning his boss tells him that he willl adhere to industry standards. His co workers tell me that he is pissed. We'll see got another inspection with him tommorrow.Tell him that you thought the same thing as he did, but since no one actually stocks 1/2", with 15/32 being the only stuff avaialable, you checked it out and found out they wre the same.That way, you're giving him some face by saying "hey, I used to be just as stupid as you." (Don't say that, of course <G>)
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