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I use my video camera to take pictures I want to digitize. Intel’s “Create and Share Camera Pack” software allows me to capture snapshots off of video tape, saves them, and also lets me edit them. The thing I like about using video tape is that you get a lot a frames to choose your snapshot from, so you have a better chance of getting just the shot you wanted. FWIW. (That one means For What It’s Worth.)
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I hope this is of general interest to the group, since we're all on computers, seems it would be.
How do you do the pictures, Joe?
What kind of hardware, software, money, learning time is involved here.
This seems like a pretty valuable construction technique to me. I know I could use it.
I have figured out that you don't have to know how to spell to do it!
So, let me know, Joe. I love it!
Yer pinheaded pal, BB
*BuckSnort, {cool name} Average computer. A scanner would be helpful or digital camera. An ISP that gives you a free web page. A little HTML would help. A FTP program to move your pictures from your computer to your web site/page. Then just practice ;-}Joseph FuscoView Image
*Joe, you make it sound easy. How long have you been doing it?One other thing, Mac or IBM platform?Thanks for the info, I'll make my kids put it together. BB
*joe I'm the process of doing a web page and you make it sound so easy. I'm going to trade a custom mandel job for some help on this. (What else do you do with all that nice wood you saved???????)
*Bill, Try this link. I did a search on Yahoo and it lead me to this. It's a very simple, step-by-step method that I used to start my own web site. Once you get it up and running it is quite easy to make it more sophisticated. Here's another site that has more information, but does not hand-hold as the previous site does. HTML code isn't terribly difficult. By learning it you stand a better chance of getting exactly what you want on your site. There are WYSIWYG programs out there that do it all for you, if the HTML is too much of a burden to learn, you could certainly use one of those programs to get you started.To see the HTML code of a web page, "right click" on the field of the page, then left click on "view source".
*BuckSnort,One of the most annoying things about "computer languages" is the use of acronyms. Many people try and explain them by using the acronyms but, never bother to explain them. So, HTML is Hyper Text Markup Language and WYSIWYG is What You See Is What You Get.Sometimes people just take for granted that you know what they stand for. Joseph FuscoView Image
*Mongo,Great links! So, how do we find your web site?Brian
*Anybody know anything about Adobe Page Mill 3.0?No HTML.What about search engines and meta links? Do they still work?
*BuckSnort,APM3.0 is a web page development tool. It enables you to "build" web pages without a need to learn the HTML code, it is generated for you by the program. Using one of these like Netobjects, Front Page or even Netscapes Composer will help you create nice looking pages is a short time. There is the time though that it takes to learn the program.Joseph FuscoView Image
*Thanks Joe, do you know if a page mill (non HTML have to learn code stuff) site will be recognized by any search engine? Will meta tags work with it?You be helpin' lots. More thanks, BB
*I think you would have to "register" your site with the various search engines to be recognized by them. I'm not sure of this so, don't quote me. In the <meta> tag you would place the attribute name to describe the words in a search to associate with your site. Like this. . . .<meta name="keywords" content="wood, tools, cabinets"> So, if someone enters "wood" in a search, your site would be included.Joseph FuscoView Image
*Joe, you've got my engine runnin'. The rest of me is searchin'. BB
*Some of the search engines will find you without you doing anything. Of course, the meta tags are important in getting your site to show up in a search.In other words, just because a search engine has found you, doesn't mean they will list your site when someone else is searching.Rich Beckman
*Mr Bucksnort,It's really qiute simple to build web sites. The tough part is to make them efferctive sites. That takes reading about design and layout. But as builders, we're already hip to design principals right? Answer: Hell No!That's why there are so many crappy looking houses (and crappy looking web sites out there). Simply, HTML is a series of coded "sentences". These sentences are made up of commands called "tags". Tags are enclosed inside the "greater than" and "less than" brackets (). A simple one is to stick a "B" inside them. That makes everything after them bold (caps don't matter in HTML coding. Most tags need to be closed when you're done doing what you want to do. You close a tag by putting a slash after the less than bracket but before the command.If I try to type in examplesd of what I'm talking about, they won't show up as the computer will assume it's a tag and it'll just follow orders.So, for the purposes of this little discussion, I'll use parentheses as brackets.If I wanted to write "Joe Fusco is a dork" and have Joe's name be bold and dork be itallic my line would look like this:(B)Joe Fusco(/b) is a (I)dork(/I)(substitute G.T. brackets for parentheses)It would look like this:Joe Fusco shouldn't take this personally.Ti put an image in your site use the command:(img src="url of where the image is").The image can be anywhere on the WWW. Lets use a photo from Joe's site. Hmmm How about the stairs? (below the main photo)The coding would look like this: (substitutung "(" for "(img src="http://www.fusco-verga-const.com/Stairs1.jpg)This will insert the photo as it is.Presto!You can also specify the height and width...(img src="http://www.fusco-verga-const.com/Stairs1.jpg" height ="10" width="150")That ought to make 'em look goofy...View Image
*Oops, I ran past my alloted 30 minutes to edit the above message (it took a while to find Joe's picture -- I had to dig through the coding of his site), so I wasn't able to fix my spelling and gramatical errors...I looked at the other sites that Mongo told you to look at and thought the first was kind of lame and the second was boring, but useful. Check out this one:Joe Barta's Web building tutorialThis is a real good tutorial, the layout is easy to follow, no flashing gizmos, No neon type that kills your eyes ... Go there on a Sunday morning and spend an hour or so skimming. You'll learn a ton!Here's a site about web design: Jeffery Glover's top ten ways to tell if you have a sucky home pageO.k, so the guys kind of a weeny, but he knows design...Check out this one as well:A goofy widget I made for my girlfriend on a rainy day...If you want to use a WYSIWYG software package, I think Microsoft's Front Page 98 is a good one, but I don't generally like WYSIWYG because although what you see is what you get, it's never what you want.Hope this post isn't too long Joe, and please don't take offense to my refering to you as a dork. I'm sure you're not nearly as much of a dork as I am. (Saturday night, at midnight, I'm teaching HTML at Fine Homebuilding...If my friends could only see me now,Dan Morrison
*I use my video camera to take pictures I want to digitize. Intel's "Create and Share Camera Pack" software allows me to capture snapshots off of video tape, saves them, and also lets me edit them. The thing I like about using video tape is that you get a lot a frames to choose your snapshot from, so you have a better chance of getting just the shot you wanted. FWIW. (That one means For What It's Worth.)
*Dick, Ahh Dork or is it Dan?I would have been more impressed if you were able to display the code as it would appear in the coded file, without all the substitutions. But, I guess you haven't gotten that far yet, maybe next week. So, from one Dork to another Dick, ahh Dork, please don't take it personallyJoseph FuscoView Image
*Joe,It's Dan. . . My Dad's name in Dick. And yes, I am a dork. (ask anybody).Quite frankly I wasn't trying to impress YOU (or anyone else). I was trying to help the guy out who didn't know how to add a graphic to his post -- since you weren't going to answer his question. As to the part about impressing you, I guess all I have to do is this:< Joe Fusco doesn't know how to spell "too">Oh yeah, dam is spelled D-A-M-B:)As far as meta tags go, They're invisible commands that affect how your site is indexed. Not all search engines recognize them, but the better ones do. Some search engines just read the first 200 characters or so of text and assume that that's what your site is about and that's good enough. But usually it isn't because often the first bunch of characters are codes describing which graphic goes where.Here's a good site describing what meta tags are and how search engines workYou need to register your site with search engines in order to be indexed in them. To register to each one individualy can take quite a hunk of time, but for dorks like us that doesn't matter. There are also free multiple submission services that'll register your site with the top ten...Normally though there's an "add url" link on search engine pages (Yahoo!'s is called "suggest a site").Your pal,Dan "The Dipshit" Morrison
*Dick,Once again I'm not impressed. Everyone knows I can't spell (so there's nothing new here). This "" this is not an HTML tag, so once again. . . nothing new.Oh Dick, your post was way to long. your palJoseph FuscoView Image
*I'm glad you posted the link to Barta's site, it is much better then my link, which is about 3 years old.Now, about that "kissy face" widget...
*Lisa, How is the pic quality?Is the resolution good enough for prints as well as website display?Thanks
*Hey, no flamin', I don't want this thread censored 'til I can get a web page up!My question was ( and still is) can software such as PageMill 3.0, which doesn't require me to know, or write HTML, get recognized by meta tags(can they even be used in a program like this)? I am assuming from the input that, if, I register it rightly with the search engines, it will be found?I can deal with HTML if I have to, but I've never cared much for the secret club stuff. No tact, I guess. I've got an idea for a constuction/woodworking related site, and I want hits. I'd like to make it the best (hey, or work up to that), so: any recomendations on site software would be appreciated. Also, any recommended scanners under $250, or is this like carpentry tools, and you get what you pay for?Should this be posted under construction techniques? BBPS We all know Joe can't spell, but it sure as hell doesn't seem to affect his work. & Thanks for all the incoming info.
*O.K., sorry,<B>this is an html tag designating bold type </B>I thought that putting a little message betwixt the less than and greater than symbols would do it for you. But I must say that I hope you're still not impressed because it's not that big of a deal... I just spaced out the ampersand and semi colon protocall.And by the way, let's leave my "post" out of this, it's a family discussion. Besides, from what I hear, there's a censor out there...your pal,Dan Morrison
*Dan,You see, you can learn something new everyday. It didn't take that long either.Joseph FuscoView Image
*I'll have you know that that "kissy face widget" has really paid off!Dan
*Well heck, there was just a thread complaining about a lack of flamin'.Anyway, I don't like secret clubs either, but I'll tell you the amount of time I've spent messing around with wysiwyg stuff has taught me that if it says "wizzard", it ain't so. It'll never look the way you want it to (even though right now you don't know how you want it to look). If you insist on using Adobe PageMill, don't say I didn't warn you. I'm sure that you can enter meta tags with this software (or any other package) -- they're extremely common and important. (But it's not the web page software that reconnizes these tags, it's the search engines). The problem is that these software packages try to make it easy on you and end up making things utterly unintelligable. Often they'll call meta tags something else (to make it easier for you) so that you have no idea what the heck they're talking about.Scroll back, click the Joe Barta site. Also click the site about how search engines work (they all work differently) to get a better understanding of what you need for your meta tags. Like I said before, (even though I hate Bill Gates) Microsoft's Front Page 98 is fairly user friendly. The main obstacle (with all of them) is that each browser recognizes html tags differently. Many tags are common to both majors (Netscape and Internet Explorer), but not all. In fact they both read tables differently. And guess what? When you build a site in Front Page 98 (MS) with tables, they don't always work properly in Netscape. More than once I've had to build two separate sites -- one for each browser. This was mostly due to how they interpreted tables. Yet Tables are the easiest way to get your site to look the way you want.Let's not even mention how they interpret Java Script... Yeesh!Overall though Bucksnort if you read through Mr Barta's site, at least you'll understand a little about html and once you get your site roughed in, you'll be better equiped to tweak it here and there.I have a handy little book called Webmaster in a Nutshell that is a great reference for the tags among other things that I don't fully understand yet. Building a web site is like playing the piano, it's real easy to do some stuff, but to sound like Ray Charles takes a lot of work.As far as scanners go, If you're using it primarily for web graphics, you can get by wonderfuly with a cheap one (as web graphics should be small in Kbyte size). Print graphics are a different story (I don't mean scanning naked ladies and printing them, I mean scanning naked ladies (or houses or whatever) and having a professional printer put them in your business propaganda. Those kinds of scanners will run you a bundle. For web graphics, get a name brand such as Hewlett Packard or Umax, but get the cheapest one they offer. Or maybe the second cheapest one. I regularly see Umax scanners with rebates attached for under $100.00. At this stage of the game, you'll never know the difference, and if you spend a bundle on one, by the time you do know the difference, your scanner will be obsolete.Getting hits:Hmmm... I got over 150 hit a day on Mr Kisser when I first posted him but I think it was that Everyone is curious about "The Amazing Kissing Machine". Most of my hits came from a place called the Post Master (www.postmaster.com) from their "What's New" section.You've gotta spend some time surfing around and registering. The other thing is getting linked to other simmillar sites. Maybe Joe Fusco will swap links with you...Hope this helps, if you have any other questions email me:Happy hackin'Dan MorrisonView Image
*Dan,I KNEW that widget looked familier! I visited your page in April 98 after seeing the note in, yes, the Postmaster.com newsletter e-mail. We even exchanged e-mails about it.It is a small cyber-world after all!Rich Beckman
*Hey there Bucksnort,The difference between good web pages and bad ones has more to do with design than with the software you use to put them together.Keep it simple, clear, easy to navigate. Keep the whiz-bang stuff to a minimum. It's the content and how easy it is to get to it and look at it that will keep them coming back.Read a design primer or two. Roger Black's "Web Sites That Work" is a good one. Lynda Weinman has a couple good books on handling the graphics.The cheapest UMAX scanner is hit or miss. I've bought one that I love, and had another one that really sucks. Go for the second cheapest one.I've fooled around with Claris Home Page (poor) and Net OBjects Fusion (an interface nightmare, but can do good things with it). I've heard tell that Dreamweaver and GoLive are the tools of choice in WYSIWYG editors. Both cost close to 300 bucks. I guess you get what you pay for. I avoid Microsoft products on principle.Good luck.Steve
*When I posted it at nashville.com a few weeks ago, I must have changed the java script because suddenly the pop-up pocket poocher doesn't work. It will sometime soon though...Mr Winky is nearly ready, but he's just not funny enough to post yet. Also, I haven't registered it with any search engines so the visitors have only been my friends and I and the readers of this thread.Glad you liked it,Dan Morrison