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Ladder jack safety

nicks | Posted in General Discussion on February 13, 2007 12:06pm

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to safely stage with ladder jacks? Our companys’ insurance guy came to one of our jobs and wanted either a fall rail like pump jacks or a fall arrest harness used with our regular ladder jack setup. Nobody wants to deal with the tangle and hassle of a rope+harness set up. Is their a simple way?

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  1. steven4077 | Feb 13, 2007 12:09am | #1

    None that I know of.  My co. wont let us use them at all.

    NAIL  IT !!!

  2. theslateman | Feb 13, 2007 12:12am | #2

    Vanguard staging makes an iron post that connects to a "pick" and then aluminum 2x4's are connected to the iron post with u-bolts.

    It's a little cumbersome but will pass OSHA regs.

    I think their height limit is 20' on ladder jacks.  Their being OSHA regs.



    Edited 2/12/2007 4:13 pm ET by theslateman

    1. nicks | Feb 13, 2007 12:54am | #3

      How do these attachments affect moving the pick up and down as work progresses?

      1. theslateman | Feb 13, 2007 01:21am | #4

        Nick,

        Ideally you would set up at one height for the work involved.

        These stancions bolt to the pick,then the alum. 2x4's hook to the posts. It makes the back of the pick heavy and making the pick need to be secured firmly to the jacks and ladders.  It's not really ideal for moving up and down-unless you've got the pick on Alum. pump jacks.

        It's cumbersome to move-but it is legal.

        Maybe pipe stage or pump poles are a better option for you.

        Walter

      2. Stilletto | Feb 13, 2007 01:22am | #5

        A local guy has started the patent process on his ladder jack rail system.  It goes on the out side of the ladder while the walk pic is on the inside of the ladders. 

        It slides over the ladder rungs just like a ladder jack,  and 2-2x4's slide into them. 

        Qualcraft contacted him and is trying to pick them up off him. 

        As for moving them,  just turn around while you are on the pick and lift them off the rungs and put them in the new location.  Just like the jacks.   

         

        1. theslateman | Feb 13, 2007 01:29am | #6

          There are more situations where you need the deck on the outside of the ladders.

          What type of set up will that require.

          It sounds like an interesting idea and probably quite workable too, as long as you set up inside.

          1. Stilletto | Feb 13, 2007 01:37am | #7

            I am not sure OSHA allows the pick on the outside of the ladders.  I know that there are alot of situations that being on the outside works better,  I am guilty of it more than anyone. 

            But in order for these to be patented they have to get the thumbs up from OSHA from what I understand. 

            I didn't see any situations in his brochures for the outside mounted pick so I have no idea.   

             

          2. seeyou | Feb 13, 2007 02:44am | #8

            >>>>But in order for these to be patented they have to get the thumbs up from OSHA from what I understand. My guess is that they don't need to be OSHA approved to be patented, but they do need approval to be of interest to Qualcraft et al. You guys getting a thaw up there? It got above freezing today for the 1st time in over two weeks and started raining.http://logancustomcopper.com

            http://grantlogan.net/

             

            It's like the whole world's walking pretty and you can't find no room to move. - the Boss

            I married my cousin in Arkansas - I married two more when I got to Utah. - the Gourds

             

             

          3. Stilletto | Feb 13, 2007 02:50am | #9

            Thaw?  Heck no,  that won't happen til July.  :) 

            We have alot of snow and it still keeps falling.  Not as bad as New York though. 

            My roof job is going pretty slow in this weather.   

             

          4. seeyou | Feb 13, 2007 02:56am | #11

            >>>>>>My roof job is going pretty slow in this weather. Yeah, that's what I was wondering about. We've gotten lucky with tarping off big sections of roof the day before it snows so we can flip the snow off the roof when it quits. We haven't gotten much snow, but it seems to snow 2" every day. Just enough to make it tough.http://logancustomcopper.com

            http://grantlogan.net/

             

            It's like the whole world's walking pretty and you can't find no room to move. - the Boss

            I married my cousin in Arkansas - I married two more when I got to Utah. - the Gourds

             

             

          5. Stilletto | Feb 13, 2007 03:01am | #13

            I only put down enough Ice and water shield, tar paper that I can cover in a day.  It would wrinkle up bad if it got left out overnight. 

            I use a leaf blower and my ice cleats to get most of the snow off the deck,  sometimes a roof rake. 

            The other day I was sliding down the roof on my arse and a shovel in front of my feet.  I cleared off that part of the roof in minutes!  I was probably doing 20 mph by the time I hit the roof jacks. 

             

              

             

          6. nicks | Feb 13, 2007 06:14am | #14

            This local guy has a brochure? Any info about it online? Anyway to see how them in action etc?

            Thanks

          7. Stilletto | Feb 13, 2007 01:37pm | #15

            I have him on my Nextel,  I'll try to get a hold of him today and see what kind of info, brochures,  possible websites he has. 

              

             

          8. Stilletto | Jul 15, 2007 05:09pm | #16

            Update on the Ladder Rail system. 

            I just read in the paper that qual-craft is producing this system now or soon will be.  It will be in qual-crafts and ABC Supply's fall catalog.

            You can contact Jody directly,  he is a good guy to talk to.  (269) 963-2335.  He probably will send you any information you would like.  Tell him Matt Swanger referred you. 

            Matt

  3. RedfordHenry | Feb 13, 2007 02:54am | #10

    Yeah, harness and safety lines are a real hassle.  So is getting in and out of your wheelchair to take a cr*p.  I know a guy whose only moving parts are his jaw, eyelids, and his tongue.  Fortunately when he fell off the catwalk (about 18 feet) and broke his neck, he wasn't married and didn't have any kids to support.

    1. seeyou | Feb 13, 2007 02:59am | #12

      Amen, brother.http://logancustomcopper.com

      http://grantlogan.net/

       

      It's like the whole world's walking pretty and you can't find no room to move. - the Boss

      I married my cousin in Arkansas - I married two more when I got to Utah. - the Gourds

       

       

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