I know this is far off the home building topic, but I’ve come to respect the advice and opinions I get here.
The other night I was laying in bed, and my wife stepped in a puddle at the end of the bed. Her first question, who spilled what here? Then a quick jump back ‘OOOH IT’S WARM. The waterbed is no more. Saturday we’re going to go purchase a mattress, something we’ve been going to do for a long time now.
Just gonna get a Queen size and box springs. I plan to build a bed to go with it in the near future. For now I’ll just set it in the waterbed. Do any of you have any real preferences. All greek to me.
Thanks
Bill
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Those spage age beds that conform to your body are supper cool just a bit pricey. I was on one once and if you can afford one it'd be my pick.
Be a bed
Namaste
andy
You don’t complete your inner work before you do your outer work. Nor do you say, "Well, the hell with the inner work: I’ll go do the outer work because it’s so important and pressing." That’s not conscious either. The conscious thing is the simultaneous doing of both. "Ram Dass"
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I think you mean the select comfort beds Paul Harvey advertises.
Just looked at their web site and figured I could get their cheapest model in a Queen for $5-700 if I build the foundation for it. Theirs costs $300.
They have 4 models. That's the cheapest, the most pricy is $2300 min.
Does anyone have any experience w/ these? I may be willing to go w/ the cheapest on next cheapest model $800-$1000. Unfortunately, the nearest store that stocks these is a 4hr. drive away.
Just wish money wasn't such an issue.
I don't think mattresses are off topic too much here. I would have posted it in the tavern, though.
I know you're supposed to spend a truckload of money on a good mattress, since you spend roughly 1/3 of your life on it. But it's hard to get excited about dropping a grand or more on one.
When I buy my next one, I'm gonna get one of those that ain't supposed to move when DW flops over on her other side and starts to snore. (Don't know a brand name.
The ones with adjustable air pressure pockets in both sides don't excite me. I don't want to be messing with the air pressure all the time.
By all means, let us know what you end up getting, and what you think of it.
I'd rather laugh with the sinners, but I wanna do business with the saints. They seem like they'd be easy to screw over. [John Dobbin]
When I buy my next one, I'm gonna get one of those that ain't supposed to move when DW flops over on her other side and starts to snore. (Don't know a brand name
Bossman
Those are the sort of foams ones I'm talking about that configure to your body. Ever see the commercials on late night infomercials on them? They put a wine glass filled to the brim on one side of the bed them one guy flops onto his side of the bed and the wine doesnt even have a ripple in it. Was developed I believe for astronauts for take offs. I slept on one once and they were super cool. I think theyre in the two grand range though.
Be a mattress
Namaste
andyYou don’t complete your inner work before you do your outer work. Nor do you say, "Well, the hell with the inner work: I’ll go do the outer work because it’s so important and pressing." That’s not conscious either. The conscious thing is the simultaneous doing of both. "Ram Dass"http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I don't know, I kind of liked trying to see how high I could bounce the wife when I flopped on the waterbed. I had an old one w/o any baffles.
She won't miss our little game I'm afraid.
Billy
Bounce onto her on a bed that conforms to her azz and be prepared to hold out...ROFLOLMAO..water beds were over rated. HAd me many.
Be a ....hmmmm..wont go there on this one.
Namaste
Andy
You don’t complete your inner work before you do your outer work. Nor do you say, "Well, the hell with the inner work: I’ll go do the outer work because it’s so important and pressing." That’s not conscious either. The conscious thing is the simultaneous doing of both. "Ram Dass"http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I don't think the foam ones were the ones I was talking about.
They had commercials about them on TV a year or 2 ago - With the stunts kinda like you describe. I thought they were just a different kind of coil mattress.
But - To quote an old Breaktimer - What do I know?If particular care and attention are not paid to the ladies, we are determined to foment a rebellion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any laws in which we have no voice or representation. [Abigail Adams, in a letter to her husband John]
Break out the $4 repair kit, available at any water bed store and most big box retailers, and clean, goop, patch. Do it first thing in the AM and it should be set by bed time. A bit of duct tape will reinforce it until it matures. Assuming it is a small leak you should be good for another five to ten years.
If it is bigger or you just want to be sure a new bladder costs a fraction of what a mattress does. Not to mention the combined costs of mattress and box spring.
I like water beds. Cheap, effective, restful, compact once drained for a move , adjustable firmness, a fairly efficient heating alternative - Its 78F in bed but 38F in the bedroom- saves on heating costs but makes cold mornings prone to sleep ins, sick calls and general togetherness and drowsy cuddling. The two down sides are that you have to have a compatible second, he/ she/ it, your call, has to move to an inner drummer that doesn't clash with your own, and water beds, especially the full wave models, umm..... "feed" too fast for good love making. Those with experience know what I'm talking about. The rest will just have to imagine or, even better, find a water bed and give it a go. Best to move that sort of thing to the couch, kitchen counter top - Gotta love quality cabinetry- or the floor where you really do have more room.
I have a friend who got a new Tempurpedic bed. He raves about it and claims it has saved his marriage. On the other hand he also claims, when pressed, that a divorce would have been cheaper. From what he says it was pricey. But anything good usually is.
Bill,
That happened to me once also!!
However, it wasn't a leaky waterbed - it was the damn cat. Just sitting there looking at me like he's thinking, " What are you looking at?"
RIP
Lotsa choices out there ...
The "Sleep Number" and the "Nautilus" are two brands that incorporate a baffles air mattress inside a surround of foam. You can get different top layers for different seasons, etc. You inflate or deflate via an electric air pump to suit your needs.
We are just retiring a 10 year old all foam mattress ... core has vertical holes through it, sollid foam layers on both sides. Amazingly comfortable. I should also say that we have a platform bed that I built. One 8" mattress only, no box spring or foundation below, just 3/4" ply.
I just finished a round of back problems, and really need a mattress that has no pressure points, but is fully supportive. When I was in boatbuilding ( the $2-8 M variety), I learned about laminating different densities of foam together. The most likely candidate now is 3" of firm HR (high resiliency) urethane on the bottom, 3" of medium HR foam next, then 2" of very soft VE (visco-elastic or "memory" foam) on the top. The experience is not unlike sleeping on a cloud.
I know this is a big leap if you haven't tried it, so it's not for everyone, but you get the idea. A mattress like this, with a cover, will close in on $600. You should get a 10-15 year warranty.
The common argument against inner spring mattresses is that, because the springs, in most of them, work with each other, you'll end up with pressure points. Foam, water, and air get around that, but you still need sufficient support. Take your choice.
If you want to learn about foam, try the following ...
http://www.foamomline.com
http://www.foamsource.com
Edited 12/12/2002 9:42:18 PM ET by BEMW
Used to have a top-o-the-line spring coil mattress. Thought it was pretty good. Blew out a couple of discs in my back a few years back, after that I didn't think it was all that great. I can't recall exactly, but I do remember rolling over dozens of times a night trying to get comfy.
About four or five years ago I bought a Tempur-pedic foam mattress. My wife and I both woke up after the first night on it totally impressed. Neither one of use recalled waking up and rolling over during the night. It's a great sleep for both of us. I'm 6'4", 260 lbs, my wife is 5'1", 115 lbs. We both sleep well. When I ordered, they tried selling us some of the Tempur-pedic shaped pillows. Instead of buying them, I got them to throw in three for free. I have the larger, thicker one, my wife's is thinner. We also got a small shaped travel pillow. Kudos to the pillows as well.
The mattress is of the type that where one person moving doesn't wake up the other. You can put a glass of water on it and move around on the mattress, it won't spill.
You don't need a box spring with these either. They can go on a platform, or just on a sheet of ply. If you do buy, there's no need to buy the "sleep system", just buy the mattress. They don't get flipped over every few months as the old spring ones do, as the Tempur-pedic mattresses are "one-sided", but you can rotate the mattress head-to-toe so it wears more evenly.
We've had ours for several years and there's no permanent indentation in the mattress from Mr. Mongo's excessive bulk.
For what it's worth, my wife's sister and her husband bought a Nautilus mattress, which from what I was told is somewhat pricey with adjustable air chambers. They hate it.
Tempur-pedics are pricey. When I bought my king-sized mattress, it was around $1500 or $1600. I think back then the pillows went for $100-$130.
For us it was money well spent. I'd buy another. Actually, in a year or two I plan on buying two more, full-sized ones for each of my kids.
Mongo
You know their website. Didnt seem to come up for when when I typed it in.
Be well
Namaste
AndyYou don’t complete your inner work before you do your outer work. Nor do you say, "Well, the hell with the inner work: I’ll go do the outer work because it’s so important and pressing." That’s not conscious either. The conscious thing is the simultaneous doing of both. "Ram Dass"http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Did a quick google:
http://www.tempurpedic.com/home.asp
Hey, you kept me up late last night on that teepee site. I'm intrigued...
Hey, you kept me up late last night on that teepee site. I'm intrigued...
Mongo,
My 20' tipi will be here when I get back from skiing in Canada this Xmas. I'll be sure to take lots of pictures to post. I can't waittttttttt!!!!!!!. I have a great site to put it up just up the hill from my 1680 house. Should look like it was always here. Just need Pocahontas in there with me.....lol. Did you check out the pictures people sent in under "testimonials"? Totally intense or should that read totally in tents? lol....Mr Reese called me to talk about setting it up and delivary. they couldnt have been more attentive...or is that a-tent-tive....lol.
Great company. they also are sending me a buncha free stuff that I never expected.
HAve a nice holiday
Scorpios are scarey...lol
Namaste
Andy
You don’t complete your inner work before you do your outer work. Nor do you say, "Well, the hell with the inner work: I’ll go do the outer work because it’s so important and pressing." That’s not conscious either. The conscious thing is the simultaneous doing of both. "Ram Dass"http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Edited 12/14/2002 9:57:18 AM ET by Andy Clifford(Andybuildz)
Just didn't want anyone to think I'd blown them off.
I appreciate the responses so far. Life has intervened so that I've spent almost no time actually looking at mattresses.
I do have a patch kit, and have used it. But, my wife's back does better on a mattress then a waterbed, and I've decided the risk of mattress leaking through my daughter's ceiling isn't worth it anymore.
Quite interested in the links on the foam mattresses. Sometime over the Christmas break I'll probably go looking for real.
Right now, our bed has a lousy mattress w/ all the camping foam pads I own on top of it. It's ok that way, but not for a real long time.
Cheers
Bill
I slept on a water bed for 13 years. When I made the switch, I tried out every type of mattress under the sun. The only type of mattress that I could get comfortable on, and actually sleep on, was a pillow top. Mine is a Sealy, but the point is I had to go to a pillow top. The plain styles just didn't cut it.
For what it's worth...James DuHamel
"The Power Zone" http://www.thepowerzone.org
"but the point is I had to go to a pillow top. The plain styles just didn't cut it."
Ditto here. I slept on a baffled waterbed for 15 years, and thought it was really good. For the past five months, I've been on a super firm mattress, with a pillow top. It's the best bed I've ever been on.
We got ours at "The Mattress Factory". They are located in many major-market cities, and they actually make the matresses and box springs in the back room. Most of their stuff is made to look and feel like the name brands (which we had already looked at.) And their prices are way lower.
When we were looking at the name brands, the ones we liked were in the $2500 range (king). We got our matress and box springs for about $1000.
This might be off topic, but the finished height of the new bed is something that SWMBO really likes -- by most standards, its very tall. But the edge of the matress is just the right height so that I can stand while she doesn't. The new position has led to lots of afterglow experiences.
I've always opted for memory foam mattresses. Some people can find them a bit warm but I sleep with a fan on pretty much every night anyway. I also stay away form home quite a bit in my camper so I needed to get a custom mattress made. I used this company https://www.gbfoamdirect.co.uk/ who were very good at getting everything sorted I've also noticed that they do standard mattresses for home use and if their custom stuff is anything to go by I'd imagine these are very good as well.