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New vinyl floors and cold weather

JohnT8 | Posted in General Discussion on November 15, 2006 09:37am

What temperature guidelines do you use when installing a new sheet vinyl floor?  Do you try and keep the room over 40-50 degrees for a couple hours, for the first day or two…for the next week…what?

In order to get a furnace set up, the utility room needs to be finished early.  That means the vinyl needs to go down.  Currently the house is only occasionally heated by kerosene heaters.  There is a roof and exterior walls, but no ceiling and interior walls are studs, so the heat doesn’t tend to stick around very long.

I’ve put up plastic on the ceiling of the utility room and am considering either temporarily putting plastic up on the walls (to hold heat in), or to get a few rolls of fiberglass insulation and staple that up (which becomes sound insulation when the house is finished).

I guess I’m not excited by the prospect of maintaining an uninsulated room at a certain temp, and was just wondering how long I’d have to keep it heated for the vinyl adhesive to fully cure so that I wouldn’t have issues with the floor in the future.

jt8

“Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree.” — Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

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  1. rez | Nov 19, 2006 07:21pm | #1

    bump

    The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun.
    R. Buckminster Fuller

  2. rez | Nov 25, 2006 07:25pm | #2

    Greetings Johnt8,

    Although this post, in response to your question, will bump the thread through the 'recent discussion' listing again, it really doesn't mean much if someone doesn't respond to you question.

    So saying perhaps it will catch someone's attention that can help you with advice is assured it is just a perhaps.

    There is actually just a handful of posters out of the many that post and lurk here that take it upon themselves to assist others with a degree of regularity so be not despondent if a lack of answers isn't forthcoming.

     

    Cheers

     

     

    1. JohnT8 | Nov 26, 2006 11:14am | #3

      LOL, I have a picture of a lead balloon in my mind.  But I've had two official bumps!

      It is bad enough that the flooring stores look at me like I'm a heretic when I mention sheet vinyl.  "You sure you don't mean ceramic tile?"    Noooo, sheet vinyl.  And not those crappy little squares.

      I made the mistake of listening to Mannington's customer service.  They "recommend" the product be maintained from 55 to 100 "for the lifetime of the product"  not just for the first couple days (yeah right!).   Should have just said the heck with it and went ahead and installed it anyway.  We had 3 or 4 days in the low 60's.  Would have been perfect.  But I screwed the pooch on that one.

      I'll probably try to get around to it some time next week.  I've got the room somewhat sealed off.  The only thing that concerns me at this point is that the floor isn't insulated underneath, so I don't know how much conduction I'm going to get and what effect it might have on the curing of the adhesive.

       jt8

      "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

      1. rez | Nov 26, 2006 07:24pm | #6

         An unbelievable 62 degrees here today. Hope your gettin' 'er done.

         

         

        1. JohnT8 | Nov 27, 2006 09:54am | #8

          I was working on blocking instead.  The discount warehouse place didn't have a cutter dude there until Monday.

          The big flooring store had some really nice looking vinyl, but I just couldn't bring myself to pay $4.50/sqft for VINYL!  Shoot, for that kinda change I'll put in hardwood floors.  I always suspect a place when they start pricing by the sqft instead of by the yard. 

           jt8

          "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

          1. rez | Nov 27, 2006 04:44pm | #9

            Holy Shid! $4.50 a square FOOT?

            Good gawd man, if you hadn't made it so plain I swear that was a typo.

            At prices close to that why don't you just lay ceramic tile?

             

            be well heeled on well tiled

             

             

          2. JohnT8 | Nov 27, 2006 08:28pm | #10

            Good gawd man, if you hadn't made it so plain I swear that was a typo.

            The discount warehouse place has some decent Mannington for $13.80/yard (on sale for $12.15/yrd).  Much more reasonable. 

            At prices close to that why don't you just lay ceramic tile?

            Probably tile the MBA and entryway.  Tempted to tile the ba, but might just get the $18/yard vinyl there instead.  For sheer utility, it is hard to beat decent sheet vinyl.  I just have to balance that with vinyl being out of fashion right now.

             jt8

            "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

          3. JohnT8 | Dec 01, 2006 07:12pm | #12

            OK, so prodded on by the 69 degree weather I finally put the vinyl down Tuesday night.    Just in time for the temp to drop 45 degrees, an ice storm to blow in, and 4-8" of snow.  Oh, and did I mention the power was out?

             

             jt8

            "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

          4. rez | Dec 01, 2006 07:20pm | #13

            oh gawd, it's all going to come lose and buckle and everytime somesteps on it it's gonna make a hole so you gotta rip it all out and start over.

            dang, sometimes it ain't easy, aye?

             

             

          5. JohnT8 | Dec 01, 2006 08:45pm | #14

            Was 48 hours too much to ask?!

            Looks like OH just got rain.  Apparently no one putting vinyl down over there.

             

            jt8

            "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

            Edited 12/1/2006 1:13 pm by JohnT8

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            BillHartmann | Dec 01, 2006 09:03pm | #16

            Not only that, but the owner is going to go bald. And as they get older need glasses.

          7. rez | Dec 02, 2006 01:54am | #17

            ya, that vinyls going to make John grow old before his time.

            He'll be needing bifocals now.

             

             

          8. splintergroupie | Dec 01, 2006 09:01pm | #15

            They tried to talk you out of vinyl; now even the gods are angry.

          9. sharpblade | Nov 28, 2006 05:28am | #11

            >>> ...some really nice looking vinyl

            That is one nice looking oxymoron  ;>)

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    IMERC | Nov 26, 2006 11:56am | #4

    after you reach a thermal mass of 50 or so..

    keep it that way for 3 or 4 days.....

     

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!! What a Ride!

    Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

  4. ward121 | Nov 26, 2006 05:19pm | #5

    John,  Are you glueing it down???  If so what does the glue say on the label?

     

    1. JohnT8 | Nov 27, 2006 09:52am | #7

      I don't usually buy the adhesive until after I've gotten the vinyl... like on the way out.  Grap a tub of adhesive and a $1 trowel.

       jt8

      "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

  5. notascrename | Dec 02, 2006 07:05am | #18

    Did I get ir right that you havnt hung the rock yet? I can hear you when you go in on tuesday pm. and the guys are in there on stilts walking over all those dropped sheetrock screws. (no, the rosin paper won't protect it). Jim

    1. JohnT8 | Dec 02, 2006 09:34am | #19

      LOL, this room will need to be finished early so that I can get the HVAC guys in. 

      The rest of the house (other than maybe a ba) will be done by the guys who like to drywall (which doesn't include me).  Putting the vinyl in prior to drywall gives me another 5/8" of breathing room on my vinyl cuts. ;)

       jt8

      "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

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