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1. 
   csnow | Aug 30, 2004 08:37pm | #1

   I vote yes.  The compressive strength of stone is obviously very high, and the concrete will lock them in place. Seems like a waste of nice stones though.

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   kclarson | Aug 30, 2004 08:50pm | #2

   It depends on what the soil is like at the bottom of the hole. If it's pudding, the rocks won't do a thing. If it's bedrock it will be a waste of your stones. Gravel helps promote water drainage below the footings. If your rocks are such that when you pour concrete, the rocks get fully encased in concrete, they won't do much good for drainage. Here in our city, we require 18" of gravel below footings if a structure is going to be constructed on silt. Silt is terrible for drainage so adding the gravel gets the water away from the footing a lot faster.

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   Dinosaur | Aug 30, 2004 11:59pm | #3

   Use washed 3/4 gravel instead of the round stone and tamp it well. Put a 'bigfoot' sonotube base on the bottom of each tube.

   You didn't specify your location; 42" indicates to me you are fairly far north. I assume you are going that deep to get below the frost line.

   You might be able to sell that river stone to a garden center if you can get some neighborhood kid to bag it in 30 kilo sacks for you.

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   Piffin | Aug 31, 2004 02:03am | #4

   if the soil around is heavy impervious clay, the voids in the stone section will allow water to drain from the surronding soil into the stone space under the peirs, with the possibility that it will heavy when it freezes - bad.

   but if the soil around allows drainage naturally, the stone will simply let the water drain away faster, collecting briefly in that space before heading off to sea. - good.

    

    

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5. 
   DanH | Sep 01, 2004 07:10pm | #5

   What do you expect the gravel to do? Normally full-fractured gravel about as deep as the hole is wide is required to produce a solid gravel foundation for a post (in which case no concrete is really required). The fractured gravel spreads the load on a point out over a larger area. Pea gravel will slide around and will actually reduce the ability of the footing to sustain a point load.

   Just spread the pea gravel under the deck in those areas where grass won't grow anyway.