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paint fumes/ sawdust, starting to get to

Fonzie | Posted in General Discussion on March 3, 2007 06:20am

I have noticed I have come away from intense painting/plaster tear out jobs with a round of bronchitis more or less. I have gone a nice stretch without the cause or effect – now we are facing a big inside paint job in a smoker’s house in weather such that the window can’t be open. We will be using brushes and rollers.

Is it practical to think a guy would use a “supplied air” respirator with a half/mask? Sure, it’s expensive (about 330 is the cheapest I can find), but is it even practical to think you can paint with a hose hooked up? I don’t miss the bronchitis, but I’m not sure there is enough freedom to paint with the hose.

Does anybody do this?

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  1. john7g | Mar 03, 2007 08:24pm | #1

    I've used the supplied air masks (full face) in confined entry work.  The hose can be cumbersome but I think if you hooked it to your belt you may be OK. 

    Any reason why you can't use a regular respirator with replaceable cartridges?  Might be a cost issue since you probably want to use the chemical cartridges that need to be replaced every day.  But you can also get particulate cartridges with prefilters (prefilters also work on chem cartridges) and use them much longer than the chems. 

    I've always used North because that's what was supplied in my former career.   If you go that direction find a local dealer & have them fit you for the mask to ensure proper seal. 

    http://www.north-safety.com/search.php?byKeyword=mask

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      Fonzie | Mar 04, 2007 02:50am | #3

      Thanks, I was suspecting it was a thing that wouldn't be practical to use. So I need to spend the money instead on the activated carbon filter cartridges or at least good fuzzy ones.

      1. john7g | Mar 04, 2007 03:14am | #4

        good fuzzy ones...

        Depends on what you're painting with.  If it's only latex they may make a difference but for anything that's not water based you ought to look into the chemical cartridges.  Lung damage is slow to be noticed and creeps up on you with a vengeance.  How much would it cost to replace a lung? 

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    RichBeckman | Mar 03, 2007 08:38pm | #2

    I agree with John.

    A "supplied air" respirator is only necessary when there isn't enough oxygen in the air. From the sound of the job, that isn't likely.

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    1. MisterT | Mar 04, 2007 04:29am | #6

      supplied air systems establish a posive pressur in the mask so there is little chance that contanminents are sucked in to the mask and your lungs when you inhale.I'm not a Respiratory Therapist...
      But I married a DAMN good one!!!Wars of nations are fought to change maps. But wars of poverty are fought to map change.

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    BillHartmann | Mar 04, 2007 03:24am | #5

    What about the systems that use the open at the bottom face mask and a belt mounted fan and filter that blows cleaned air into the face mask.

    I can't think of what those are called or any of the brand names.

    You are tethered to anything.

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    1. toolbear | Mar 04, 2007 06:06am | #8

      What about the systems that use the open at the bottom face mask and a belt mounted fan and filter that blows cleaned air into the face mask.

      I have the Racal Airmate, bought from Woodcrafters in the last century - and showing it.  Works fine for dust.  Use it for spray painting.  Have been happy with it.  I wear glasses and the normal masks just fog me up.  This one blows cool, filtered air down over my glasses.  Me happy camper.

      Talked to a trim carp. on a job at the Georgian In A Hole job on Warbass, Friday Hbr.  He was wearing a half mask with a HEPA filter/motor unit.  Considering what is in that dust, smart move.

      At the Woodcrafter sale today and they had a new German version with a better hood, ear muffs, etc.  for about $200.

      Talk of their demographic -  silver hair, gold teeth.  Yo, we be Geezers. The ToolBear

      "Never met a man who couldn't teach me something." Anon.

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        Fonzie | Mar 04, 2007 05:39pm | #9

        I think this is what you are talking about http://www.islandwoodcraft.ca/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1417&zenid=9d0cbae3acc87027ae31c6730ad911a4

        1. toolbear | Mar 04, 2007 07:44pm | #11

          Yes, that is the very thing.  I was fondling the Triton Powered Respirator only yesterday.

          BTW - Woodcraft.com has it on offer for 199.99, which sure beats Island...

          While it warns that it is not for those vapors and spray painting, the condition of my face shield shows a lot of stuff that did not get on my face while I was enjoying cool, filtered air.  Worked for me.  Now, they need to wire up the ear muffs with an mp3 jack.

          Besides, need a Halloweve costume?  Wear it.The ToolBear

          "Never met a man who couldn't teach me something." Anon.

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            Fonzie | Mar 04, 2007 11:50pm | #12

            That's a much better price, thanks. And you think that would really help with latex paint (rolled) in a smoky environment, huh?

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            Fonzie | Mar 05, 2007 06:47am | #14

            Just ordered the Tritan from Amazon. I could have got it for 189$ but 3-5 days slower. Good reviews on Amazon.

          3. toolbear | Mar 06, 2007 05:26am | #15

            Just ordered the Tritan from Amazon. I could have got it for 189$ but 3-5 days slower. Good reviews on Amazon.

            Didn't know they had it.  I will have to look.  Might upgrade my old one.  Needs it. FWIW - best order ahead - filter set, face shield.  Have them in stock.  They used to make covers for the shield.  I tried saran wrap.  Mixed reviews on that.

             The ToolBear

            "Never met a man who couldn't teach me something." Anon.

  4. WayneL5 | Mar 04, 2007 05:12am | #7

    I'd try the half face respirator.  There are different cartridges for different contaminants.  Make sure you use the appropriate cartridge for what you're exposed to.

    Have you seen a doctor?  It is certainly worth checking out as to why you are more sensitive now.  Hopefully it is only old age, but it's much better to be sure.

  5. Piffin | Mar 04, 2007 06:18pm | #10

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    xxPaulCPxx | Mar 05, 2007 12:27am | #13

    Get the North 7600 (I think), it is a fully silicone full face with a tone of filtering options, including going with new air if you decide you need it.  I was made for people to wear it all day long.

    They also have tear off coveres to protect the lense from paint.

    Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA

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  7. karp | Mar 06, 2007 09:37pm | #16

    I don't know about a resperator, but I will tell that I've gotten bronchitis from doing tear out of wood lathe and plaster. Came to find out that the horse hair mixed in the old plaster had a mold assoiciated with it and during demo, it gets airbourne and you breath it in. Add that to the fine dust and,.... hack hack... excuse me,... anyway, I avoid that work now and suggest you do the same. Just tell them to call you when its all cleaned up.

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