Ok which would you get tne Senco or the Rigid palm nailer.
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Both, one with the hammer face and the other with the magnetic nail holder.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
Do both have enough power to drive 3-1/2" nails in to LVL?
Edited 1/5/2008 5:36 pm ET by bgh
I have a dewalt and a bostitch, so I can't say about those two. I have heard of senco's having a ring issue or something.
My Bostitch will often 'stick' and have to be struck with a firm blow to get it to fire at first, then settles in and works fine for the duration, till next use.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
Sphere,
spray the nailholder with WD40 and then whack it.. once it's working spray into the nail holder about once a week.. problem goes away..
I will try to remember, normaly I'd not get wd-40 anywhere near an air tool, it will destroy the inner O-rings. Yes it will, don't try to argue..LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
Sphere,
I don't use WD 40 in the palm nailer I just use it on the outside. I suspect you are right about it ruining the O rings..
I've tried the Senco twice. Both have blown the diaphragm quickly and repeatedly.
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Seeyou was the Senco that you had problems with the older A9 or the new model A20? I don't really know if there is a big difference.
I'll have to go look, but the newest one is 6-7 years old. Come to think of it, my info is a little dated. But I've heard that Edsel is a pretty nice car.http://grantlogan.net/
My mother once said to me, "Elwood" -- she always called me Elwood -- "Elwood, in this world you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." For years I tried smart. I recommend pleasant.
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I understand that, newer is not always better.
Ditto. Exactly in fact. Paid a premium for 'em too. Bought two and got maybe six months out of them. Rebuilds weren't cost effective either. Next I bought two Cambell Hausfield cheapos at homedepot and got about a year out of them. Then I found a couple of Bostitch palm nailers on Amazon... I think they were priced incorrectly... for about $40 each. I've had them for about 18 months now and they're both still chugging along. Truth is... we don't even use them that much but they still don't seem to last all that long. Must be something inherent in the design.View Image
My Bostitch is still going after 2 years now.
You got a steal at $40, I think I got gouged for $100. Still worth it for what it's done for me. Woods favorite carpenter
Yeah, like I said, I think it was an error cause I posted the deal here in BT when I found it and nobody else (that I recall or know of) got the same deal. But the transaction went through for me. Good deal.
EDIT: LOL... watch.... they'll break tomorrow. ;)
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Edited 1/5/2008 10:20 pm ET by dieselpig
Thats the way it goes for me, start telling everyone about a favorite tool and the next time you use it is the last.
Woods favorite carpenter
I got the same deal, was like 39 bucks. Ironically we just started using last week when the senco shot craps again...
Matt,
mine was free when I bought my N88WW framing nailer
Mine did that right out of the box, I bought it at Woodworker's Warehouse when the folded so I couldn't even return it. The one Senco dud I own.
I doubt if I got a week of mild use out of either one on the original diaphragm or the replacements. I sold one on EBAY and the other has been sitting for years. I got a couple of Harbor Freight palm nailers for $40/ea recently (I had to "texture" a copper counter top) and one of them ran a full day of constant hammering before it died and the other is fine. I doubt the Senco would have lasted 10-15 mins of constant hammering.http://grantlogan.net/
My mother once said to me, "Elwood" -- she always called me Elwood -- "Elwood, in this world you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." For years I tried smart. I recommend pleasant.
Elwood P. Dowde (James Stewart), "Harvey"
So are there any palm nailers that you would recommed, or are they not worth the trouble?
The DeWalt has been reliable for the year I have had it. The bostitch too..but one day I didn't have the Bos with me, so I snagged the DW.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
You could always contact the people that made them first. That would be Danair. The website is at danairinc.com. I have four of them from the old days when there really wasn't anything good in the way of positive placement nailers. One of them is over 20 years old, has been rebuilt many times and still works fine. All I use them for lately is for driving 16d and 20d commons and the occasional simpson n54.
How do you use it to make hammered copper?
What head etc.?
You recommended a place for me to get hammered copper sheets which I got my supplier to order from.This is a picture.They had a large variety.
First attachment may be to big but I couldn't get rid of it. WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?
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Another picture of the gate.WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?
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Nice looking work.http://grantlogan.net/
My mother once said to me, "Elwood" -- she always called me Elwood -- "Elwood, in this world you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." For years I tried smart. I recommend pleasant.
Elwood P. Dowde (James Stewart), "Harvey"
How do you use it to make hammered copper?
What head etc.?
I would have gotten the prehammered stuff, but I had a deadline and couldn't get it in time.
I just used a short carraige bolt and stuck the threaded end in the nail receiver. Set it on the copper and pushed down.
http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=96928.9http://grantlogan.net/
My mother once said to me, "Elwood" -- she always called me Elwood -- "Elwood, in this world you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." For years I tried smart. I recommend pleasant.
Elwood P. Dowde (James Stewart), "Harvey"
My mother once said to me, "Elwood" -- she always called me Elwood -- "Elwood, in this world you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." For years I tried smart. I recommend pleasant.
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it."
Sorry, just dredging up old posts.
jt8
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We have a Senco, I think it's a 0781, about three years old. It has worked quite well and we pour a lot of oil into it, maybe that's why.
Just ordered a Grip-Rite mini palm nailer. I have a 4-1/2" space I have to get into and nail off a hanger.
I bought the first mini palm nailer I saw and it has all but replaced the big one. You are right about it pushing in anything that will fit inside it.
It's good for a bet with some young smart guy - it will quickly push a 4" grabber screw into just about anything made of wood.
I bought the grip rite GRTMP16 at the JLC last year. It weighs 1.1 lb and is half the size of a traditional palm nailer. It will drive a spike with no problem. Small size fits right in your pouch. It's worth a look, and costs about $50.
I just bought that small guy at the JLC show couple months back in Seattle. I've only used it a little so far, but am stunned how a little guy like that can punch in the big nails. Havn't tried going into LVL's or PLAMS yet.
How much have you put yours through to date? View Image View Image
I used mine quite a bit over the summer, repairing a rotten porch. Drove a lot of hurricane clips, joist hangers etc. A lot of this was into old dry and hard lumber, as well as really wet PT. I had no issues with it. I like the weight of it. When not in use I leave it right in my belt.Bri
This one is also nice because it comes with a bunch of tips including a scrapper in a nice little case. $100 BTW
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I'm on my second one, a Ridgid, had it for about 2 years. I use it so little anymore that it's hard to say yea or nay, but I can answer your question. Yes, it will drive 16d into LVL. First one was a generic throwaway, but lasted through 3 years of intermittent framing.
Duane's right, WD should NOT be used in any kind of lubrication of air tool innards. O-rings go kaput.