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Pictures from Scotland

hubcap | Posted in Photo Gallery on September 18, 2009 04:57am

home from vacation

castles

churches

lochs

bens

and fens

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    hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 05:14pm | #1

    churches

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      hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 05:40pm | #2

      lochs
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        hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 05:53pm | #3

        bensNo Tag

        1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Sep 18, 2009 06:07pm | #4

          Why are there so few trees there laddie?

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            hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 06:19pm | #6

            I could tell you but I'd be making it up.They have plenty of stone.Everything is built of stoneNo Tag

          2. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Sep 18, 2009 06:33pm | #7

            It appears that there's trees enough in the fens but not in the bens.  Is that what defines them? 

             

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            hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 06:51pm | #9

            bens are mountainsfens are valleyspeoples houses don't have much wood for interior trimseems like it was saved for the church and the wealthyNo Tag

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            hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 07:04pm | #10

            sheepNo Tag

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            hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 07:05pm | #11

            wreckNo Tag

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            hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 08:53pm | #12

            bridgesNo Tag

          7. GregGibson | Sep 18, 2009 09:53pm | #13

            Wow, excellent pictures.  What good keepsakes of your trip.  Surely you made it to Edinburgh !  More pictures coming, I hope ?

            Man, I was in Scotland for Easter in 1971.  You make me feel old.

            It's funny that we in America think that something 200 years old is OLD.

            Greg

          8. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Sep 18, 2009 10:36pm | #14

            I'm enjoying the photos.  How about a trip log or some description of where you went and what you saw.  Did you eat anything peculiar? 

            BTW, I'm Scottish on my mother's side.  Although we didn't celebrate that heritage,  I do get a lift from hearing the pipes.

          9. fingersandtoes | Sep 18, 2009 10:46pm | #16

             "Did you eat anything peculiar?"

            Impossible not to. I went to school in Glasgow for a year in '75. Everyday for lunch we all ate chips on a bun with lots of vinegar. A great meal as you can still play football while eating.

            I guess things have changed since. The top curry restaurant in Europe is situated beside the Clyde River. 

            Edited 9/19/2009 12:33 am ET by fingersandtoes

          10. brownbagg | Sep 18, 2009 11:12pm | #17

            I thought scotland be wall to wall people. Its a island huh

          11. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Sep 18, 2009 11:12pm | #18

            Everyday for lunch we all ate chips on a bun with lots of vinegar.

            Aaaccchhhh!  I'd have to be awfully hungry before I'd eat fried potatoes with vinegar.  I guess that putting them on a bun makes it a balanced, nutritious meal, huh? 

            I enoy fresh fish and chips but with salt and pepper, no vinegar.   

          12. fingersandtoes | Sep 18, 2009 11:37pm | #21

            Glasgow was populated largely by refugees of the highland clearances and their healthy indigenous diet replaced by early precursors of modern junk food. It wasn't uncommon on the early part of the last century to find people brought up on bread and jam. Once they discovered deep frying everything they could think of was subjected to it.

          13. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Sep 19, 2009 02:41am | #26

            So the highlands were cleared to make grazing land for some kind of domestic animal.  Sheep and cows, one would think.  That being the case, who ate the meat the dairy products?  BTW, I don't doubt the dietary history as you've recounted it, just curious. 

             

          14. fingersandtoes | Sep 19, 2009 04:06am | #28

            The common lands used for subsistence agriculture were enclosed and used for grazing by large land owners causing the displacement of a large portion of the rural population. When they went to the cities they lost many important parts of their culture: how to raise children, what to eat, and their whole social structure. Many emigrated to America where a bastardized form of their clan structure formed the nucleus of the KKK.

            For a much more positive and fun look Scottish history I'd recommend "How the Scots invented the Modern World" It's a very good read.

            I haven't said anything about the photos. They are wonderful! Very evocative.

          15. Zorrohood | Sep 19, 2009 12:40am | #23

            Ya found Pete's boat! Cool.

          16. seeyou | Sep 19, 2009 04:16am | #29

            peoples houses don't have much wood for interior trim

            Doesn't look like they have much of anything for roofs from your pictures. The grass looks carpet like, though. Beautiful place. Probably look better if the sun ever shined. I think I'm glad my family pulled up stakes there and headed here. copper p0rn

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            hubcap | Sep 19, 2009 01:09pm | #32

            only copper I saw was in the stillsdidn't see any asphalt shingles and all the flashings were leadstills at GlenfiddichNo Tag

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            hubcap | Sep 19, 2009 01:39pm | #33

            I will have to get back to you with the trip tic- my wife told me my job was to drive on the left and keep the car "greasy side down."an overview thoughstarted in Edinburgh down to Glasgow from there somewhat south and west to the coast. Generally north I think up to Loch Lomond and there abouts ending up back in Edinburgh for a few days and then on to the highlands of the north west and north. We then drifted down to Loch Ness on the way more or less to Charlestown on Spey. From there we headed for St. Andrews and then back to Edinburgh for the seven day flight home.eatshaggis and blood pudding everyday for breakfast.(This is how the Scots determine if you are committed to enjoying their homeland I think.) If you don't contemplate what you are eating and just shovel it in it isn't bad.also ate some things at a large dinner party we attended. No clue what they were- table decorations maybe.
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            hubcap | Sep 19, 2009 01:50pm | #34

            rooftopsNo Tag

          20. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Sep 19, 2009 06:34pm | #54

            haggis and blood pudding everyday for breakfast.

            Sounds like, between the English and the Scots, breakfast is a meal to avoid.  

            Meself, I'd settle for a bowl of oatmeal, porrige in Britain.

          21. seeyou | Sep 19, 2009 02:48pm | #42

            The Scotties have their priorites right on how to use their copper........copper p0rn

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            hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 06:44pm | #8

            Stone fencesstone wallsstone housesstone roof tilesNo Tag

          23. Piffin | Sep 19, 2009 04:27pm | #51

            "Stone fencesstone wallsstone housesstone roof tile"Yah, und stone faced people, 'cept the twinkling glinting eyes! 

             

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          24. doorboy | Sep 18, 2009 11:15pm | #19

            If I'm not mistaken, most of the Highlands was forested just a few hundred years ago. But when the landowners realized that grazing animals could make them more money than commercial forestry could, down went the trees.(among other reasons) Mostly Scots Pine--their national tree.
            There is a fairly extensive re-forestation taking place right now.
            If you've never been, that is one beautiful country.
            I'm really enjoying the pictures, Hubcap. Keep 'em coming.

          25. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Sep 18, 2009 11:32pm | #20

            Logging it off for profit makes sense, considering what the first hundred years of the industrial revolution did to nature.  Glad to hear that they're trying to re-forest those mountains.  Better late than never.  Let's hope that there's enough soil left for them to grow and take root.

            Most of our Eastern woodlands were logged off in the same way.  Some native species are gone forever now.  Fortunately there were other places for livestock to graze so the mountains re-forested themselves.    

          26. drystone | Sep 19, 2009 12:45am | #24

            Going back a couple of hundred years most of Scotland would have been covered in timber of some sort but there are areas above the tree line which can't support any growth.  Remember we are on the same lattitude as Hudson Bay and Moscow.  It is the Atlantic Ocean which keeps us warm - and wet.

            The 18th and 19th Centuries saw a great deal of deforestration when the trees were cut down for iron smelting and to clear ground for agriculture. 

            There is plenty of timber in houses, often imported from Europe, but after WW1 many conifers were planted to ensure a local supply of good wood.  In WW2 many Canadians, especially Newfoundlanders worked in the forestry service. 

            The iconic buildings are in stone because there is a long tradition of building with stone, lime and slate to provide solid weatherproof structures.

            In the 18th Century sheep became an important income earner for the large landowner, their tenant farmers were moved nearer the coast, to take up jobs as fisherman or small farmers or in the developing cities or moved overseas -  the main reason why there are 5 million Scots in Scotland and 50 million with Scots ancestry throughout the world.

          27. frammer52 | Sep 19, 2009 01:36am | #25

            Love the pictures!!

          28. fingersandtoes | Sep 19, 2009 07:43am | #30

            I've just been replying to Hudson's posts and didn't see yours until now. Here I am telling Scottish history to a Scot. I feel like a donkey.

            Edited 9/19/2009 12:43 am ET by fingersandtoes

          29. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Sep 19, 2009 11:14am | #31

            I feel like a donkey

            Hey...don't worry.  I missed his earlier posts until now too. 

            It's one of the weaknesses of this board's notification system.  The remedy, one which I don't always remember, is to return to the thread without using the Email link. 

            That way I come back to the conversation where I left off, without jumping past and missing anyone else's comments. 

             

            Edited 9/19/2009 4:16 am by Hudson Valley Carpenter

          30. drystone | Sep 19, 2009 02:22pm | #37

            Don't worry,  history is open to all sorts of interpretations, each equally valid. 

          31. mack9110000 | Sep 19, 2009 03:12pm | #46

            The Scottish land owners didn't cut the trees down for grazing animals.Many of the forests were cut down for 'land cultivation' by the landowners tenants,who were subsequently evicted from their family homes for the purpose of rearing livestock,mainly sheep, which was more profitable.The "Highland Clearances" were of tenant farmers not trees,but I'm sure many of you know this already,as a lot of the "evacuated" landed on the American/Canadian coastline.I might add that visitors are always welcome.

            Regards,mack.

          32. Snort | Sep 19, 2009 03:18pm | #47

            You have a beautiful country. Why are there churches in ruination? I can understand the castles... but somebody always seems to be able to organize a fund drive for a church?http://www.tvwsolar.com

            We'll have a kid

            Or maybe we'll rent one

            He's got to be straight

            We don't want a bent one

            He'll drink his baby brew

            From a big brass cup

            Someday he may be president

            If things loosen up

          33. Snort | Sep 19, 2009 03:21pm | #48

            More stills, please... research, research, research!Thanks for the pictorial, great way to start the morning.http://www.tvwsolar.com

            We'll have a kid

            Or maybe we'll rent one

            He's got to be straight

            We don't want a bent one

            He'll drink his baby brew

            From a big brass cup

            Someday he may be president

            If things loosen up

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            hubcap | Sep 20, 2009 04:39am | #57

            washbackshuge fermenting casks more or lessmade of vertical grain dougfirNo Tag

          35. Snort | Sep 20, 2009 04:33pm | #61

            can you email me a sample?http://www.tvwsolar.com

            We'll have a kid

            Or maybe we'll rent one

            He's got to be straight

            We don't want a bent one

            He'll drink his baby brew

            From a big brass cup

            Someday he may be president

            If things loosen up

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            hubcap | Sep 20, 2009 10:16pm | #62

            spirits through the ether...No Tag

          37. mack9110000 | Sep 19, 2009 03:36pm | #49

            The short answer to your query is, "Too many churches,not enough people",but in truth many of the churches shown have been in ruination since the "Reformation", lack of money for maintenance is also a big factor.

            Regards,mack.

          38. doorboy | Sep 22, 2009 12:44am | #67

            Thank you for the clarification, Mack. I visited Scotland recently and obviously misunderstood that part of history--maybe it was after we toured the Edradour Distillery!
            Anyway, I'll stick to Texas history from now on.
            As Davy Crockett said to the rest of Congress on a failed re-election bid: "You may all go to hell. As for me, I'm going to Texas."

          39. Piffin | Sep 19, 2009 04:44pm | #52

            In Ireland part of the story on trees was that the English cut a lot down to keep rebels from hiding in the forest. 

             

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          40. mikeroop | Sep 19, 2009 05:50pm | #53

            man i definetly need to do some work for you so I can go on a vacation like that :)

            glad you had a good time

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          hubcap | Sep 18, 2009 06:14pm | #5

          fensNo Tag

      2. drystone | Sep 19, 2009 12:29am | #22

        If you have a pic of number 13 showing more of the loch you will see that it has the shape of Scotland - a famous view.

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          hubcap | Sep 20, 2009 04:30am | #56

          let me look
          this one maybe?No Tag

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            hubcap | Sep 20, 2009 04:43am | #58

            probably meant to attach a pictureNo Tag

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            hubcap | Sep 20, 2009 05:05am | #59

            crittersNo Tag

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            hubcap | Sep 20, 2009 05:07am | #60

            andNo Tag

          4. drystone | Sep 20, 2009 10:17pm | #63

            That's it,

            almost a clean outline of Scotland in the loch, if you want a clearer version, without the trees in the foreground,  I can send one to you,

             

            Nick

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            hubcap | Sep 21, 2009 02:48am | #64

            That would be great.ThanksNo Tag

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            hubcap | Sep 21, 2009 02:51am | #65

            speaking of spiritscemetery shotsNo Tag

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            hubcap | Sep 21, 2009 02:04pm | #66

            just a few more and I will wrap upRannoch Moor
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            Edited 9/22/2009 9:30 am ET by hubcap

          8. alwaysoverbudget | Sep 22, 2009 03:36am | #68

            So I have to say-- these pictures are more than amazing!

            I am currently preparing for a study abroad trip to Edinburgh, Scotland in the Spring and this makes me more than excited to go!  I will be studying at Edinburgh Napier University.

            My dad linked me to this so I could see these pictures, and to say the least I am more in love with Scotland than I was when I applied (and I thought that would be impossible)the older i get ,

            the more people tick me off

          9. brownbagg | Sep 22, 2009 05:09am | #69

            aren't there any people in scotland

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            hubcap | Sep 22, 2009 04:36pm | #72

            Here you go then
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            hubcap | Sep 22, 2009 04:39pm | #73

            andNo Tag

          12. notagain | Sep 22, 2009 11:50pm | #76

            Nice to see some pics of Scotland. One day my wife and I hope to go there for a visit. Among other things I work with stone...........and marvel at the castles.We just got back from the Highland Games at Loon Mountain in New Hampshire. We go every year. There is just "something" about the sound of bagpipes.Did you plan the trip on your own, or did a travel agent help? Is there anything that you would do different? Rod

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            hubcap | Sep 23, 2009 12:52am | #78

            We always rent a car and stay in b+b's where we can. Kinda sorta map things out with a "Lonely Planet" guide book and a "Frommers."Also people here at Breaktime- somebody is always willing to tell you where to go...And we ask the proprietors of the b+b's where to dine and what is a must see nearby.If you go there is a pass you can buy for admission into a fair number of the castles and historical places that is worth the price.do different:go for three weeks instead of twogo to Loch Ness early in the trip because although it is a pretty lake and full of monsters and all, it is not chock full of the jaw dropping vistas of the coastlines and highlands.only had one day planned for island trip and weather killed it (shoulda had a plan "b")Old Course at St. Andrews is closed on SundaysNo Tag

          14. drystone | Sep 22, 2009 10:33pm | #74

            If you stay away from Danube Street and Rose Street while in Edinburgh you will come to no harm.

          15. alwaysoverbudget | Sep 22, 2009 11:16pm | #75

            this is dad,

            i may pick your brain a little as she gets closer to heading off.

            i believe the college she's going to is naiper,in edinburgh. 

            to far away for dad.lolthe older i get ,

            the more people tick me off

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            hubcap | Sep 23, 2009 12:28am | #77

            my little girl is in Edinburgh now writing a review of things for the young adult to do and see while there.I can send you her email addy if you like.No Tag

          17. alwaysoverbudget | Sep 23, 2009 01:14am | #79

            *this is daughter*

            Love those additional pictures-- are those of Edinburgh itself?

            Also, that would be amazing to get to talk with someone who is over there right now-- I would greatly appreciate it!

            the older i get ,

            the more people tick me off

            Edited 9/22/2009 6:14 pm by alwaysoverbudget

            Edited 9/22/2009 9:45 pm by alwaysoverbudget

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            hubcap | Sep 23, 2009 05:21am | #80

            yepthose last pics are from E-town. (That's what all us hip world travelers call it.)I will send her E-mail address through and let her know you will be in touch.Her name is Channing.No Tag

          19. alwaysoverbudget | Sep 23, 2009 05:40am | #81

            i'll pass it on to ashley,she'll be fired up. shes in her 3rd year and has been planning the overseas thing since first day of freshman year.

            one of her first choices was amsterdam,dad said no way everything is legal there! she found this college in edinburg and got pretty sold on it so thats where shes headed. dad wishes it was about 5000 miles closer.lol

            thanks,i'll get her the email.the older i get ,

            the more people tick me off

          20. mack9110000 | Sep 22, 2009 12:59pm | #70

            Hub, I think your latest post shows "Rannoch Moor",scene of the Campbell massacre of the MacDonalds,not to be confused with "Bannockburn"where the Scots put the English to the sword, in a little local disagreement.Glad to see so much interest in our own little country,though I suppose it's hardly surprising,given so many of our ancestors settled in the American continent.

            Regards,mack.

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            hubcap | Sep 22, 2009 04:29pm | #71

            Thanks for the correction.We had a wonderful time in your homeland- punctuated by the friendliness of everyone we met.No Tag

      3. Piffin | Sep 19, 2009 04:16pm | #50

        Thanks for sharing! You have given me cause to start a whole new folder to save these in! 

         

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  2. Moncla | Sep 18, 2009 10:36pm | #15

    Beautiful. I spent a year in Scotland studying furniture making. That was almost ten years ago, I really miss the place.

  3. MikeSmith | Sep 19, 2009 03:23am | #27

    golf..... we want golf !

    Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
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      hubcap | Sep 19, 2009 02:13pm | #35

      didn't play the "old course."closed on Sundays... somebody told me that but I didn't write it down or tattoo it to my forehead.so I shopped Saint Andrews.here I am sporting my new St Andrews golf attire
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      hubcap | Sep 19, 2009 02:19pm | #36

      Couple of shots from actual playgreens are a bit slower than we are used torough is what you imagine (I hit one ball in- no point in looking)first cut was like hitting a ball out of a wire brushfairways short firm and fastNo Tag

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        hubcap | Sep 19, 2009 02:38pm | #39

        SeascapesNo Tag

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          hubcap | Sep 19, 2009 02:41pm | #40

          moreNo Tag

    3. Jer | Sep 19, 2009 02:43pm | #41

      Heard this guy interviewed some months ago and the book sounds really great even though I don't play.http://www.tomcoyne.com/Company.html

  4. Jer | Sep 19, 2009 02:35pm | #38

    Absolutely beautiful. Thank you.

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      hubcap | Sep 19, 2009 02:54pm | #44

      hey you are welcome.to see Scotland is to glimpse into infinity I think.
      No Tag

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    Jeff_Clarke | Sep 19, 2009 02:51pm | #43

    Nice photos ... did you get to Skye?  One of the most beautiful places on earth.

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      hubcap | Sep 19, 2009 02:59pm | #45

      ferries didn't run on account of a gale- winds up to eighty miles an hour, rain straight sideways- so we missed out.No Tag

  6. Carole4 | Sep 19, 2009 08:13pm | #55

    I've enjoyed this visual tour! Great pictures.

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