Plumbing Problem – Right, wrong, Crazy?
OK, before any other “comments” it is a well know fact that I am crazy, but my question has to do with this particular plumbing problem.
As I discussed in another thread I was doing some electrical work in a kitchen while the counter top was being replaced. Included in that was a new faucet. And stop valves. There was not even one for the DW.
Like so manythings in this house the plumbing was all screwed up. They just used what strange combination of parts that they had until they got from here to there. The guy doing the counter top was cussing and complain and was having alot of problems. Ended up cutting it out and puting in new fitings.
I go back on Sunday to finish up and connect the DW and disposal and noted that the cabinet was damp. I figured that was from the all of the leaks from the day before and had the HO leave the cabinet open and fan running.
She called me Monday to say that it was leaking. The other guy was not avaiable so I went over to look at it.
The leak was on both the hot and cold stop valves where they screws on the copper pipe to thread adapter. The DW one did not leak, but it was a different style of valve.
I won’t go through what all I tried to stop the leaks, but the fact that the DW valve did not leak should have been a clue, but I missed it all together.
So I finally removed cold water valve and looked at it. At this time I THOUGHT that I had stopped the leak on the hot water side. They are Watts balls valves. The female threads look funny. More like Acme threads rather than pipe threads. The screwed on correctly and felt like it made up correctly.
My guess is the the hole was bored a little big before threading.
So I go to the local hardware store and they did not have the style that I need so I went to Lowes where I think they came from orginally. In both stores they had 50ish clerks. I don’t know if they actually had any plumbing experince are not. But both of them really knew there plumbing fittins and what goes with what. Both of them said that I was crazy and if they threaded on and did not have any cracks (which I could not see any) that I justed need more teflon tape. I had already tried 3-4 turns.
I went ahead and pawed through the box at Lowes. There was a lot of missed placed parts in that bin and several other looked as bad as the one that I had. But I found one that had nice sharp threads on it. Installed and no problems.
BUT, I see that the hot water side is now leaking. So I don’t know if know if Lowes has anymore that are good and I am still doubting myself if the threads where realy bad.
So I remember a plumbing supply store not too far away so I go their. The counter guy started with the same comments about just needing more tape and if the nipple will go thread it it should be OK. But I did get him to look at the threads and he agreed that they did looked “different”. So I got the other stop valve from him and replaced it and not leaks.
So the question is where the threads really bad or should I have keep trying more tape until I got up to 10 or 20 turns. Or maybe epoxied it to gether?
BTW, I think I remember reading about a similar problem here a couple of months ago. Otherwise I don’t think that I would have even looked at the threads.