I’m getting started on a Master Bath remodel for my own home. HA! 4’6″ x7′ is hardly Master size, and our bedroom it is off of is loaded with a King size bed as well. For the last two years, this non-functional space has had no door and has been more of a storage closet. That is soon to change though.
I’m realizing that I will need to put a door of some kind on here, but I’m trying to figure out what would work in this small of a space. The opening is for a 28″ door, but a regular door on hinges would open right into the pathway of the bedroom, giving something else for me to trip on in the evenings… and scaring the bejeejies out of my wife which results in the <there’s someone in the room> “SHRIEK!”… which in turn scares me and I get to give my own little girl SHRIEK. Great fun, as I get slugged for waking her up.
I was thinking of using a pocket door here, but every pocket door I’ve seen rumbles (or squeeks) down a track until it bangs against the frame. Not good for keeping your spouse asleep. Are there better pocket door systems that are silent in operation, or is there a way to make them silent?
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Use a solid core door and Hafele hardware and you should be good to go.
You can use an electronic force field, and just de-materialize it when you need to step through.
Just a thought.
Forrest
Yes, but my luck I'd install it wrong and leave a thin band activated and decapitate myself while going to the can, now THAT would be embarassing!Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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Use a Johnson or Stanley heavy duty pocket door kit with the ball bearing rollers. And use a solid core door. The light hollow core door's thin shell acts like a speaker when it vibrates. And bongs when you bump it.
Here is what we did: Same as above, used a single panel door and pulled the stops out of one side and placed a mirror in the door with safety film and reset the stops. You now have fairly heavy and quiet door with a mirror in it to utilize more bathroom wall space for other stuff. the outer side just looks like a regular door(filler panel on that side) Use a solid beam for a header as this is less likely to vibrate and rattle.
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Edited 6/19/2006 11:37 pm by etherhuffer
can I get that force field in blue.
Yeah, I think the new blue LEDs will let you do that.
On a real note, why not a 6-panel solid door split in half vertically, hinged on either side? It would take the space claim down by half. Could use some magnetic catches, or hinges that swing both ways, and spring open or closed - like 60s houses have between the kitchen and dining room.
Forrest
You know, I was thinking about "saloon doors" too, but I've got a large picture next to the door so I would not be able to open it flat with the wall, and the other way would put it in front of some built in cabinets I'm doing.Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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Get a star trek type of door that goes up into the ceiling. Though they did make that "psttt" sort of noise....
Get a star trek type of door that goes up into the ceiling.
Why did they even use doors, turbolifts and hallways? They could just use the transporter to go anywhere on the ship that they wanted! In fact, now that I think about it, why did they even have legs?
And even more off topic... I read one of those "behind the scenes" books back when I was into Star Trek. Those "automatic" doors were operated by people using ropes and pulleys. Needless to say, there were more than just a few incidents where the doors didn't open at the right time.
-Don
In a similar vein, I've always wondered about people who have their house cleaned more than once a week. At some point, it makes sense not to even bother with dishes, as every surface will be cleaned anyway.Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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In a similar vein, I've always wondered about people who have their house cleaned more than once a week. At some point, it makes sense not to even bother with dishes, as every surface will be cleaned anyway.
That's funny! I have the mental image of a kitchen table with pictures of plates drawn on it.
-Don
Still more off topic, what I never got was why the door opening had such a large bottom piece to trip over. I don't see the need for watertight locks on a space ship...
Why did they even use doors, turbolifts and hallways? They could just use the transporter to go anywhere on the ship that they wanted!
I want to remember that the TNG "script rules" had a 'deal' where, since the ship was moving, and manuvering, & such--the risk of beaming part way into a deck or bulkhead or other crewmember meant you had to be able to walk your ownself.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
but I've got a large picture next to the door so I would not be able to open it flat with the wall, and the other
Ok, so the idea is quiet, and also not obtrusive, right?
How about a tempered glass door then? The glass door hardware is nicely quiet. You might could "frost" a frame or panels (or both) on the door, which would let it not be a visual barrier.
The ultimate in "cool" though, would be to have an LV electro-photochromic panel in between the tempered glass sheets. Use a magnetic reed switch, so that closed, the current would go on, and opaque the door. I don;t even want to ask what sort of "sticker" that would have, though . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Ahhh yes, an LCD door. Yep, that was rolling around the back of my mind too... along with a crazy four way with imaginary clones of my wife...
I was thinking about using a glass door, but I think it would be hard stopping noise (nothing is louder at 5:30 am than a dropped bottle of shampoo onto a bathtub floor... unless you count that #^$%#W contractor running his chopsaw next door ;). Unless I built a double pane sound deadening door, but that would add alot of new variables to this - like how to deal with light.Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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How about an outhouse.
but I think it would be hard stopping noise
Shouldn't be any louder than a shower door closing--if you can scorethe right hinges & strike, natcher'ly.
Alternately--what about double-acting hinges? If the door can swing 180º, with maybe a magnetic detent where the "normal" strike would be--then no noise, right?
(Oh, and I've had this "Junkyard Wars" mental image of a salvaged LCD screen in a wood frame since I posted before <g>.)
Hmm, plain wood framed (stile & rail) door, use glass for where it'd block artwork; but apply some one-way window film to the glass.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Off the top of my head I can't remember the brand, but we like to use a heavy aluminum track build for doors in the 100 lb. range. It's very smooth and handles solid core doors quite well.
Paul, in the dead of night, at the foot of your bed, there is no such thing as a silent pocket door. Swing a standard door on well oiled or ball bearing hinges into the bath.
If you want to add something special install a heated floor.
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Gord
Thats what I'm worried about! A hinge is a known good solution, but I really don't have the space for it. The door would be open 95% of the time, and while silent it would be in the way a take up a lot of floor space I like to dedicate to my dirty clothes :)Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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Think about this from your wife's point of view..."Hinges not only let me sleep, but force him to clean up after himself."I'm afraid you're stuck, bro.
Laundry chute?May neighbors respect You, and troubles neglect You.
Gord
In the dead of the night, everyone else is asleep. No need to close the door. Leave it open and everything stays quiet.
Everyones asleep?
Sounds like you're on some kinda high fiber diet.
After 9 beers and hot wings
Close the door.
Hager also makes some nicely operating pocket door hardware. Rubber bumpers act as silencers on the back side of the pocket.
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Doug
So you have seen an installation like he describes and it fits the bill as I describe?Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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Paul
I've used Hefele pocket door hardware a number(maybe 20 +) of times, couple that with a good door and theres nothing like it.
Doug
Wish my DW thought that too.....Hafele is pricey, but boy that stuff is the Rolls Royce of hardware. They have a nice showroom here in NYC too. On most high end residential work, it is commonly used. You rarely see Johnson or Stanley hardware being used for that application.