It’s too bad I can’t edit the title of this post. I’d change it to something like READY, SHOOT, AIM; or THE RIDGID MSUV IS A PRETTY GOOD STAND, or THE RIDGID MSUV IS NOT QUITE IDIOT PROOF, AND I’M THE PROOF.
If you are searching the forums because you are thinking about buying a Ridgid Miter Saw Stand, Model MSUV, then please consider this an endorsement of the product. The product is not perfect, but since I overcame my driver error, it has served me well.
Positives include good mobility around the jobsite, reasonable mobility between jobsites if you have a PU truck, reasonable stability given the fact it is on wheels, and fast set-up/tear-down.
The negatives are relatively minor — non-adjustabilty of leg length to compensate for non-level terrain, non-ideal placement of one of the setscrew levers, and the need to remove one of the roller supports when collapsing the stand into its travel configuration. Also, it is quite a bit bigger in its folded position than alternative stands without wheels.
I have mine set up without the miter saw bolted on. I’ve found the stand to be at a convenient height for routing so I use it as a clamping surface for that too.
If you are reading this because you have a problem getting your stand level, read on: There is a sentence about modifying the rate of opening the stand if necessary. Pay attention to that sentence. Alternatively, if the wheel end is high, push down sharply on the wheel end of the table to get the guide to click into its detent position. Voila! Level stand. I suspect that the weight of a saw bolted on top may help to get the stand to this detent position.
I committed pilot error in not getting the guides into the detents.
My original post is included below for your amusement. 😉
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I want to post a mild warning about this product.
It’s a good idea but poorly executed.
Basically, the stand is kind of like a take-off on the newer portable table saw stands with big wheels. It’s supposed to fold up like a hand truck with your miter saw bolted to it and then unfold and be a stable miter table.
As built, the extendable legs are too short or the wheels are too big. The table is fully 2″ out of level when set up. I recommend ripping a 4X down to 2 inches or nailing 1/2 inch material onto a 2X and putting that under the legs to level up the stand.
Also, the right (wheel) rail extension setscrew lever is placed too close to the table surface and interferes. I rotated the lever from its factory position and found a position that sort of works — if you don’t mind the sound of screeching metal when extending or collapsing the extension rail.
And you have to remember to remove the right support roller from the extension arm when you fold up the stand — it interferes with the frame near the wheels.
So now your one-piece saw-on-a-hand-truck has three pieces to carry — the main stand plus a support roller plus the leg leveler.
I got no response from Ridgid (Emerson) technical support worth anything.
Good idea — try again, Ridgid.
Edited 7/6/2006 12:30 pm ET by Powpowhound
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You must have a different one than I do...mine is 2 yrs or so old and FLAWLESS...bolting the Bosch 12" slider to it, makes quite a heavy MoFo tho'...I leave it in the shop most of the time , but getting out the door to the yard and resetting is no big deal..
I love it. Did you swap some parts in the assembly sequence?
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Mine that I bought last year is fine. It is a heavy beast, so I wouldn't want to have to load it on and off a truck very often, but for moving it around the garage, I just loosen up & pick up the wheel side support leg, wheel it to where I want it, then drop the leg again.
As long as you get the sequence right, folding and unfolding has worked fine for me, and leaves it standing like a hand truck, not taking much space at all.
I've got my 12" Bosch (which was on sale last summer on Amazon for ~ $200) on it, and while I was waiting for that to arrive, the MSUV went on sale for $99. Not a bad deal.
Hope their quality hasn't gone downhill.
Don
I've been using mine for two years. It is flawless. I have their other stand too, which also is a great tool. Everything is level and stable.
Well, this is good news then. There is nothing to assemble that can affect level as far as I can see. And being so far off level is the only problem that was bad enough to make me think it appropriate to warn others.So perhaps if you are considering this stand, just recognize there has been one batch or one unit with significant manufacturing variations in geometry. It might be wise to check level before you get as far from a HD as me. I've been using my stand with my Makita LS1013FL -- a saw that is good enough to make me forget the stand.Thanks for the responses. I'll try an exchange rather than a return.
Could you post some pics of yours?
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Thanks all. I was almost too embarrassed to reply, but I don't want to be the originator of bad information floating around for a keyword searcher to find.I've edited my original post so a surfer won't need to read to the bottom to get to the punch line.The gas strut had seated the guide pins against the end of the groove, but not against the end of the detent, the little channel oriented about 90 degrees from the main guide axis. I was being a little too gentle with the stand and hadn't snapped the table down into its detent position. Once I did, the stand was perfectly level. Doh!Since I figured out my error a couple of days ago, the stand has been working fairly well. It's not quite as stable as I'd like, nor are the minor issues fixed, but I really like the convenience with moving it around my jobsite and I've found that its table is at a convenient height for doing things other than miter sawing. For example, I've been using mine as a workpiece clamping surface for routing trim. Routing is much more confortable for me at this height than being clamped to 30 inch sawhorses. I'm considering not permanently bolting on my saw so I can keep this functionality maximized.Does anybody know how to edit the title of a thread?
You'd have to get a moderator to edit the title.
I just read your editd post. That's pretty cool of you. Most people would just drop it and no on would no any different.. But yoiu handled it nicely.
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I bought on 2 years ago and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread! Even bought one for my BIL last Xmas. He loves it.
Are you certain you assembled it correctly? The out of level (assuming your floor is level) issue is weird. Call or email Rigid. They should make good on it. Some of the screwdowns are a tight fit but aren't enough trouble for me to complain.
I have my 12" Dewalt on it - permanently. Now it's very heavy or I am getting old. I am considering welding swivel wheels on the underside of the handle so I can more easily load it into my truck and push it in. Another summer project.
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I'm like the other guys. I've never found any faults with mine. You definatly got something very different going on.
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try again, Powpowhound.
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Never had any trouble with mine.
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Yoiu got to watch were your face is when you release that main spring. Talk about getting crackd in the mouth.
Rock the Tipi!
I hope that little gas shock lasts a long time. Sure makes it an easy set up.
If having a low wage work force was good for a country's economy then why hasn't Mexico built a fence?
I got two and they both work fine. One for Dewalt SCMS 12'' that I had to drill custom holes ( no problem ) and the other for the 13 1/2 inch Dewalt planer. Couldn't live without them. A friend of mine misassembled hers and it wasn't level, but there was no manufacturing defect.
Just received mine last month and it works great. Bolted a 5412 on it and it could only be better if it included stops of some sort. Sure like mine!
I've had a DeWalt 12" SCMS bolted to mine for a few years now. No problems at various job sites or in the shop.
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I'm still not sure why you have to remove one of the roller supports.
I haven't collapsed mine for a while, but I was able to keep it all one piece. I think I remember having to play with positioning and sequence in order to do it, but it made it.
Don
The roller support on the wheel end of the table crashes into the U-shaped frame member that runs from wheel to wheel. Based on your message, I just went out and played with it some more. It appears to be related to deck height. I have a Makita 10" slider with 4.5" deck height. At that position, a crash occurs whether or not I reverse the roller. However, I just tried reversing the roller and raising it to near its maximum height. That configuration works, just barely clearing the frame member. Thanks.Maybe there's a difference between how far the extension arm retracts between your stand and mine? Just an inch more retraction would probably be sufficient for the roller to clear the frame at all deck heights, and shaping the stop clamp shelf a little differently would allow it to collapse in its proper position (facing away from the table)Even though I figured out my pilot error, if I was doing a design review on the stand I'd still send it back for redesign as a condition for release -- although I probably wouldn't go so far as to block release. I'd rather the user not have to reset roller height each time the stand is unfolded. Same thing for the interference between the extension arm setscrew (clamp) lever and the table near the gas strut release. Placing that on a lower corner rather than an upper corner of the frame member (relative to the table) would eliminate the interference.If you read these complaints, you should know that my reference point is the Bosch folding table saw stand, a really excellent design. I'd point to that design as the level to which the designers of the MSUV should have aspired. They fell just a bit short. But I think the Ridgid stand's strong points outweigh its deficiencies so I'm keeping it. The Bosch stand IS idiot proof (and I'm the proof). ;-)
Good on you.
If having a low wage work force was good for a country's economy then why hasn't Mexico built a fence?