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Slate roof snow retention

theslateman | Posted in Photo Gallery on December 22, 2008 11:44am

Just put these snow guards in last week to keep snow from cascading down onto the lady who lives in this apartment , and her vehicle.

We’ve had 2 snowstorms since – a 6″ fall late last week and 15″ of heavily wind driven snow last nite.

The wind has blown a lot off the rake , but the rest is holding solidly.

And no I played no role in the plastic gutter.

 

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  1. Piffin | Dec 22, 2008 11:49pm | #1

    "And no I played no role in the plastic gutter."

    Whew!

    ;)

     

     

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    1. theslateman | Dec 22, 2008 11:57pm | #2

      This caraige house is in the Broadway Historic District so I don't know how anyone was able to install it without a COA from the Preservation Commission.

      1. seeyou | Dec 23, 2008 12:56am | #3

        I gotta try to get some pics tomorrow. We're doing our 1st fake slate roof (yeah, I know, I know) and I made my own snow retentioners. The roof didn't really need them, they just wanted them.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

        1. theslateman | Dec 23, 2008 01:11am | #4

          Looking forward to seeing them.

          Nothing wrong with the fake stuff either if thats what they want.

        2. Piffin | Dec 23, 2008 01:34am | #5

          tamko? 

           

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          1. seeyou | Dec 23, 2008 01:45am | #6

            Nah - EcoStar. They wouldn't even look at the Lamarite. It was 20% cheaper. With the Ecostar, you have to use their underlayment, I&WS, nails, etc. All the proprietary accessories are more expensive than comparables. We had to pay $500 and sign up for a half day training seminar. Had the seminar last Thursday. We got there at 10.30. We were done by 11:45. What a joke. They were really concerned with mixing bundles so there's no splotchyness.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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        davidhawks | Dec 23, 2008 03:56am | #9

        It's ok, even WITH the snowbirds those gutters won't make but a few seasons.

        Then they can call you to do the job that should have been done first time around.The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.

        1. theslateman | Dec 23, 2008 04:31pm | #11

          David,

          Some of the parts still had the bar code sticker on them. So I agree , they won't last too long , although they're set above the roof plane in places so now they won't get sheared off with cascading snow and ice.

          Walter

          1. frammer52 | Dec 23, 2008 09:20pm | #12

            long , although they're set above the roof plane in places so now they won't get sheared off with cascading snow and ice.

            Walter

            That is a shame!

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    larryscabnuts | Dec 23, 2008 01:49am | #7

    Dumb me... I have seen them on slate roofs before and didn't know what they were for.

    1. frammer52 | Dec 23, 2008 03:24am | #8

      What the plastic gutters?>G<

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        larryscabnuts | Dec 23, 2008 04:18am | #10

        LOL.. That too. I did put plastic gutters on a garden shed once. But not on me house.

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    FatRoman | Dec 23, 2008 11:34pm | #13

    Walter,

    The snowbirds look great.

    Maybe you can upsell the client on the fancy half-round pvc gutters next time? Nothing says elegant like some ripped down toilet pipe on the front of the house, right? :)

    Fake slate...is that still made from recycled tires? Always thought that was an intriguing idea, but didn't know how it turns out in the real world.

    Best,
    Steve

    'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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    1. theslateman | Dec 23, 2008 11:40pm | #14

      Steve,

      This was kind of in response to a thread last week on retaining snow on a metal roof.

      This parcel is for sale so the next owner might consider a half round copper gutter to replace the existing PVC.

      We'll have to wait for Grant to check in tonite with some photos of his fake slate job. I've never installed any and really don't know a lot about that material.

      I think there'll still be slate for me to practice with for the rest of my career.

      Walter

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        Sphere | Dec 24, 2008 01:51am | #15

        I was just at Grant's today jawing about that fake slate..he was telling me it is "pre-consumer ( not recycled) waste" TPO and EDPM mixture in what he is using.

        I HOPE he posts tonite, we just got all shut down from a wicked ice event , the interstate and all overpasses are closed. I bugged out from his house at lunch and it was starting then.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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        1. theslateman | Dec 24, 2008 02:49am | #16

          Thanks for the update Duane.

          That must be putting the Kibosh on your flat seam work as well.

          Happy Holidays,    Walter

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            Sphere | Dec 24, 2008 02:58am | #17

            Yeah, the weather has been playing havoc with everyones schedules here..

            I dried in really well Sat when I left the job, and looks like I won't get back till well after Xmas..I picked up my gutter liner today from him, and will get my roof pans Fri.

            Just saw more on the news, and everything up there ( 20 or so miles North of me) is shut down. I know he was waiting on a big load of copper too, and had a site visit scheduled, but then all hell broke loose.

            Fingers crossed fo him if he's out driving right now.

            Happy , happy to you and yours.!Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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          2. theslateman | Dec 24, 2008 03:02am | #18

            I hope you'll start a thread showing your roof when the weather improves so you can begin again.

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            Sphere | Dec 24, 2008 03:06am | #19

            Will do.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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            Jeff_Clarke | Dec 24, 2008 05:22am | #22

            Walter - what's the procedure for post-installation?  Slate ripper to pull two courses?Jeff

          5. theslateman | Dec 24, 2008 01:19pm | #23

            Jeff,

            I didn't take any install photos this time , but normally I take out 3 slates on the diagonal to allow the guard to be nailed to the deck , then re install the slates.

            I'll look back in another thread to find that sequence for the install.

            Walter

          6. theslateman | Dec 24, 2008 02:10pm | #25

            Jeff,

            Here's an album showing the procedure for install into an existing slate roof.

            Walter

            http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8cbsmrhq1zY

          7. woodarama | Dec 24, 2008 02:42pm | #26

            how do you secure that slate tile that you took out?

          8. theslateman | Dec 24, 2008 02:47pm | #27

            I've actually taken out three to install the snow guard  -the one thats cut to accept the copper bar stock and two above that.

            The cut slate is held at the butt with a slate hook and a nail in the open side. The next slate is double nailed on the open side , and the last one is held with just a slate hook.

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            Jeff_Clarke | Dec 24, 2008 05:10pm | #28

            Thank you Walter - that was great!   And have a great holiday -

             

            Jeff

        2. seeyou | Dec 24, 2008 04:03am | #20

          I got the CU off the truck by 12:30 and I had to put my truck in 4WD to get up the hill from my shop. Didn't sleet much, just put a fine coat on everything. Got to my 1PM appointment on Old Frankfort Pike and it was dry as a bone. Got back home about 2 and it had all melted. Started bringing all those pallets in and it started sleeting again. I was afraid to take the forklift down the hill - good thing or it would still be there and 8k lbs of CU would be in the sleet right now.I picked up two 1K crates at a time and I could still peel out on the forklift and there was no stopping it 'til I got inside the garage on dry pavement. About the time I got it all sheltered, it quit sleeting and all melted again. I went in the office for about 20 mins (Dale showed up and got his chair part) and then had to run out again to the drugstore. Started sleeting again while I was in there. When I got back, I got out of the truck and promptly fell flat on my back on ice that wasn't there 15 mins before - didn't break anything, but I'm sore.Came in and the dog wanted out, so I let her out the back door and she fell down the steps. While I was dealing with that ice, my SIL called from the ER. She fell and broke some ribs and punctured a lung.It's wicked out there - it freezes, then melts, then freezes somewhere else. I-75 was closed down for a while. It's supposed to warm up thru the night. Be careful.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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            Sphere | Dec 24, 2008 04:28am | #21

            I hit it when I crossed the river on the way home..early. The van sure isn't like the AWD Safari was, but I'm Yankee enough to know when to slow down.

            Was thinkng about you guys up there when I saw the news and Hume Rd, 75, Winchester, New Circle, and Man O war were all shown at a stand still and 50 wrecks reported.

            Glad yer safe and sound..it is warming up at least and all rain here.

            Thanks for checking in.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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          2. theslateman | Dec 24, 2008 01:38pm | #24

            Grant,

            Glad the mishaps were minor in your case. Sorry to hear about the SIL's injuries.

            The weather seems wackier lately , more ice and mixed precip. where we'd normally get all snow years ago.

          3. JohnT8 | Dec 26, 2008 05:33pm | #29

            Sheeze, hope you and the SIL are ok!  That ice stuff is just a WHOLE lot more wicked than snow.  I'd much rather have a foot of snow than a half inch of ice.  If that soreness doesn't go away in a couple days, you might go and get it checked out with a doc. 

            I think my count for this week is 5 times I've nearly gone down on the ice.  Thought I was a gonner both in my car and on my feet in the  parkinglot of the ribs place Tues.  Just easing down the slight down angle into the parkinglot from the street caused a free slide that almost put my car into the porch of the place.  And when trying to step off a curb becomes an adventure (especially when you're carrying an aluminum tin of 4 racks of ribs, a couple lbs of brisket, drink. 

            Would have put a downer on the pre Xmas work lunch if I'd scattered ribs all over the parkinglot.  :)

             jt8

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            Sphere | Dec 26, 2008 08:06pm | #30

            Damm,,you eat 4 racks of ribs and few lbs. of brisket just for lunch? I thought I was a big pig eater..LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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          5. JohnT8 | Dec 26, 2008 09:05pm | #31

            Damm,,you eat 4 racks of ribs and few lbs. of brisket just for lunch? I thought I was a big pig eater..LOL

            They gave me a bag of BBQ sauce too.  Makes it all go down easier.  All I needed was some beer and something on TV.

            Bad weather took me so long to get back to work in, several folks had given up on me and already eaten lunch.  So there was a lower demand and enough left over for me to have ribs that night for supper. 

             jt8

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