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Hey folks,
Heres my situation…
Installing chrome supply lines for a clawfoot tub. Lines are 1/2″ NPT nipple which is intended to be installed with a floor flange with the end of the nipple being BELOW the finished floor surface. Impossible in my installation as the tile is down and theres no access to below the floor.
Any ideas on making the connection and still being able to use the floor flange as a means of support. Locating the fittings above the floor and covering with a deep eschecuteon would work but then these 21″ high heavier than he** lines won’t have any support and neither will the fixture that mounts on them.
Thanks for any suggestions. Brainstorm any ideas you have as I’m open to anything.
Mike
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What do you have sticking out of the floor now? What pipe material were you attaching these chromed supply lines to?
First thing that come to mind is to use the extra tall escutcheon to hide the nipple coming through the floor and to support the nipple with a collar secured to the nipple with a set screw (similar to a drill stop collar).
*Ralph, CPVC stub outs there now.Mike
*CPVC stubs will work fine. Are they fastened down tight to the framing under the floor or can you push and pull a few inches. If you can pull them UP, support them as high as you can without undue stress while gluing the 1/2" male adapter (the one with the CPVC attached to the brass male threads). Then thread on the risers with the trim pushed up the tube out of the way. Then remove the support, lower the pipe a little, which will put the fitting in the floor where you wanted it in the first place, tighten the support bushing around the chromed tube and drop the escutcheon to the floor to hide the support. If you can't move the stub, just cut it as short as you can and still get the adapter on. The use a bushing/support to clamp the fitting firmly in place and lower the oversized escutcheon to the floor. A bushing with a set screw like I mentioned in my first post might put too much stress on one point. Might not. Your call. You could use a miniature version of the two piece clamp used by both plumbers and electricians to keep their pipe from falling through floors. Used mainly in commercial work. If you haven't seen one of those, it looks like two conduit straps but with longer arms bolted together around the pipe, or maybe even like the straps on chainlink fence posts with only one bolt.
*Slap it all together. Make sure you use plenty of duct tape. Form up around it, and encase it in a pour of concrete.There ya go, no one sees the hoary pipes.b : )
*Ralph and Luka, OK, Ralph's method sounds just a little bit better. Maybe its was Luka's "slapping" that scared me away? Mike
*Yeah, but did Ralph tell you to use duct tape ? All the rest of these guys are just pretenders. Not a one of them mentioned duct tape. What man in his right mind doesn't use half a roll of duct tape on the pipes when installing a bathtub ? You can use what's left of the roll to hold the form together when you pour the concrete.C',mon man, do it. You know you want to. I'll bet you could even find some duct tape with yellow tags on it right now at HD.b : )
*Duct tape is a great idea. My second choice is to find some larger fancy chrome tubing that will go over the smaller fittings and cover each tube and fitting assembly. You could even split the tube and install it over the completed pipe installation then seal up the split with duct tape. Just a thought. ;)
*After reading the posts, I still believe you need some lateral support midway or so up those 21" + fixture. Maybe a nicely finished wood "shelf" made in two parts, each having a pair of U shaped holes to slide onto the pair of risers and "lock" them laterally?Someone is going to accidently grab that fixture if not even during normal ops.
*Luka,How did you forget to tell him that when he's done, he should class the install up by wrapping all tha chome with the duct tape.Rich Beckman
*What color duct tape? I got some black stuff from the A/C supply house that sticks to anything. Wrap it up the chrome pipes with a barber pole effect.Lateral support: Guy wires. Shoot some stays into the floor at three points around the pipes, get some chrome turnbuckles and stainless aircraft cable and you're in business. Only one on the block. Now watch someone steal this idea. It'll show up in Architectural Digest in a couple of months with some hotshot designers name on it.
*Guys, How dare you suggest duct tape when I said CHROME fittings?! I'm going to use metallic AC tape as it looks like chrome. Shoot, I maye even return the high $$ chrome fixtures and just run everything in CPVC and wrap with metallic tape. Then I'll post some pictures of it and everyone will be copying me...Mike
*Ha, ha, ha, ha,ha,Mike, Luka, Ralph ha, ha. Stop it, you all are killing me. This site is great, so much to learn so little time. Well I am off to buy some new duct tape.C
*Hey Mike R. -I just came back from an Expo Design Center (big $ HD) here (Wash, DC) trying to kill some time and saw "the solution" to your problem. They had a nice brace installed about 2/3 of the way up the two supply nips and it was also tied to the tub vent. The brace finish matched the nips and the fixture and in this particular case the brace also formed a support for the fixture (I think). You know, I'm here, its there syndrome. Point being - if you have one of these showrooms reasonably close it would pay to visit because of the huge number of displays they have. They also have your two wall shower enclosures in masse.
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Hey folks,
Heres my situation...
Installing chrome supply lines for a clawfoot tub. Lines are 1/2" NPT nipple which is intended to be installed with a floor flange with the end of the nipple being BELOW the finished floor surface. Impossible in my installation as the tile is down and theres no access to below the floor.
Any ideas on making the connection and still being able to use the floor flange as a means of support. Locating the fittings above the floor and covering with a deep eschecuteon would work but then these 21" high heavier than he** lines won't have any support and neither will the fixture that mounts on them.
Thanks for any suggestions. Brainstorm any ideas you have as I'm open to anything.
Mike