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tangent handrailing

bipet001 | Posted in General Discussion on January 22, 2007 09:20am

I want to put a handrailing on our winder stairs on the wall (wide) side.  There appear to be no fittings to accomplish the 90 degree angled turn.  What are my options?

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  1. JerraldHayes | Jan 22, 2007 09:32pm | #1

    Because there are an infinite number of possibilities (based on the infinite number of ratios of radius to slope possibilities) for parts in tangent hand railing production no one manufactures stock parts. Tangent hand railing parts are intrinsically custom parts.

    If your in the Westchester and Fairfield county area in the metro NY area we can make a part for you but if you're not let me know where you and I give you a few of the companies that I know of than can possibly make the part you need for you (either by hand or with a 5-axis CNC machine).


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  2. JerraldHayes | Jan 23, 2007 12:37am | #2

    Wait a second! Was the outside wall curved or in straight sections? If it's curved then what I already said about it being a tangent rail apply. If the walls are straight and at right or 45º degrees to each other then there is a solution you can use using stock parts that I have diagramed and described somewhere either here or in the JLC forms before.

    Let me know if it the later and I'll try and run down that old post

    When I read "tangent" and "winders" the first thing that came to mind was this old project we did. View ImageThis kind of work (around the inside) uses tangent hand railing fabrication techniques but if you want to run the railing down around the outside walls of this particular stair you can do it using stock parts.


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    1. bipet001 | Jan 23, 2007 07:08am | #3

      It would be on a wall with a 90 degree corner. (Like your picture but on the wall side. There is no landing at the corner, the stairs just keep winding...)

      1. JerraldHayes | Jan 23, 2007 07:56am | #4

        This is the sketch I used in an old post here and this sketch shows the railing layout around the inside of a switchback stair set up but it would be the same as for what you would do running it around the outside.

        View Image

        In fact if you look at the treatment of the base molding around the out side of the railing in the photo above it's the same kind of thinking. You come down with your rake rail and then level off with an easing and then make your 45% cut on that short level section. You then start out again from that 45% cut with another real short level section that then turns down hill again into a rake rail using either a gooseneck/easing combo or an over easing and then repeat that process at the next corner.

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    2. stevent1 | Jan 23, 2007 02:56pm | #5

      Jerrald,

      Great looking goosenecks. Did you mill them or are the stock parts?

      Chuck S.live, work, build, ...better with wood

      1. JerraldHayes | Jan 23, 2007 06:35pm | #6

        stevent1 - "Great looking goosenecks. Did you mill them or are the stock parts?"

        You're talking about the "barber pole" (that what we call it) rail in post #84553.3 although it is technically what I guess you would call a serpentine gooseneck. That's all made by hand. I was actually on the phone yesterday with a guy from a 5-axis CNC shop and I asked him if the machine could make that and he said yes except for the last section at the top where the plan radius gets tighter than 6" so it could possibly be matching made. But no you will never find anything like that as a stock part.

        Plus I've never even seen the railing shape profile that we used for that job in any catalog of stock parts by any of the major manufacturers either.

        View Image

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