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Type B flue for oil heat???

Piffin | Posted in Energy, Heating & Insulation on April 4, 2007 01:53am

Hey you metal gurus

We are looking at a brick chimney that has gone bad and comparing options.

rebuild with brick
Line with SS and keep brick
reline with golden flue
replace with Type B Galvanized.

My knowledge on this goes way back to the wood stove days and I was wondering if the Type B flue is still a code legal option. Because of cost and budget on this job, that is the way they are leaning. I’ll be checking with my plumber/heater guy too but the vast background from here can help me balance my information.

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  1. seeyou | Apr 04, 2007 02:05pm | #1

    My working knowledge with this stuff dates back to yours, but I thought oil flue requirements were the same as solid fuel (meaning B vent was not acceptable). There's not much -if any- oil used around here any more, so I could be remembering wrong.

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    1. Piffin | Apr 04, 2007 02:18pm | #2

      It's been awhile - what is class A SS up to now, per foot? You know? 

       

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      1. seeyou | Apr 04, 2007 02:24pm | #3

        Don't have a clue.http://logancustomcopper.com

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      2. r | Apr 04, 2007 04:04pm | #5

        I put a Metalbestos 6" SS double wall chimney on my house in Nov 2006.  That's probably too long ago to be relevant, but, for what it's worth, I paid $102 + tax for the 4 foot sections.  (I'm a DIY, but I bought four of the 4' sections at one time, and the $102 was much cheaper than their original quote of $135 each, so I think I got a contractor's price, but don't know for sure).

    2. Piffin | Apr 04, 2007 02:33pm | #4

      Ouch - I just looked some up at over forty bucks a foot!
      This past year's increase in commoditiy prices keeps hitting me by suprise.
      I gotta call the golden flue folks to check with them.... 

       

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  2. roger g | Apr 04, 2007 05:31pm | #6

    B vent is only for gas venting stuff. My neighbour last year uses a wood stove for all his heat but the insurance company decided that he needed an inspection which he failed. His chimney flue wasn't straight up and down. It had a bend in it and I thought he was screwed but evidently a wood stove company came in and put a flexible liner down the chimney. I had never heard of this before. I have a gas ticket and have put flixible liners down chimneys for gas appliances but that material would not survive a wood fire.

     So to answer your question: evidently there is a flixible liner out there, somewhere, that works for wood.

     

    roger

    1. Piffin | Apr 05, 2007 01:25am | #7

      Yeah, Simpson makes it. I was mostly checking to see if I could use class B for oil but apparantly it rates same as wood heat flue-wise. 

       

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      1. roger g | Apr 05, 2007 01:46am | #8

        Interesting. Do you have a web page. Out here on the west coast, burning wood as the main heat source is very common. It will be good information to pass on to customers.

         

        roger

        1. Piffin | Apr 05, 2007 12:29pm | #9

          My web page?
          You are on it!;) 

           

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          1. Novy | Apr 05, 2007 02:37pm | #10

            Hey Piffin,

             I have a double wall going in a job next week @ $2200. It's about 18' and the price also includes sweeping the woodstove chimney and converting from the old sidewall vent system. 

            On a hill by the harbour

          2. seeyou | Apr 05, 2007 03:00pm | #11

            What dia? 8" is nearly twice the price of 6" (or was when I used to sell it).http://grantlogan.net/

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          3. Novy | Apr 05, 2007 03:44pm | #13

            Believe it or not it is 7" out of the burner. Not sure if they will switch outside.

            When I was auditing the quote through one of my suppliers the materials were $1400. There are a few corners required to get out of the mechanical room.

             

             

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            Edited 4/5/2007 8:47 am by Novy

          4. roger g | Apr 05, 2007 03:44pm | #12

            You twit :) The web site you saw the flexible wood chimney liner. It's 5:30am here and it's good to start the day with a chuckle.

             

            roger

          5. Piffin | Apr 05, 2007 09:02pm | #14

            It twittered away while I was out plowing snow here. sorryGoogle up simpson Duravent. They have solid pack and tripole wall and flexable.
            Same folks that make the Simpson hangers. 

             

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  3. oldboot | Apr 06, 2007 02:25am | #15

    hello, i've been messin' with factory built chimneys since the '70's.as in so many things,the first ones were s.s. and so well built that they just screwed together.then they changed to painted metal exteriors and supplied clamps to hold them together.then they dicovered rust.to cut to the chase,a new standard emerged and the old one became classed for liquid fuel only.
    nothing looks better than brick if it's got any life left in it.around here typically a stainless steel liner is required unless the chimney is clay lined.the refit is easy and topped with a s.s.flashing and cap.there was an article afew yrs.ago in f.h.b.about inserting a rubber dam and pouring concrete.$$$$$
    good luck. stephen g.

    1. Piffin | Apr 06, 2007 07:22am | #16

      That baldder and opour system is the Golden flue I mentioned earlier.This chimney I am dealing with is for oil furnace or boiler only, no wood on this one. 

       

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