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   Guest_ | Oct 21, 1999 03:21pm | #1

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   pre-stain the pcs. parts b4 assembly is the only way i've been able to keep the cloud away.

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   Guest_ | Oct 21, 1999 03:36pm | #2

   *At the shop I work in, we often times will stain and seal the whole sheet of plywood before even cutting it.The only difference is we then need to use roo glue to glue up the cases.

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   Ben_Carnes | Oct 21, 1999 06:33pm | #3

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   Roo Glue? Sounds like it's from the Winnie-the-Pooh marketing firm (Tigger's progeny, you know).

   Well, pre-staining certainly is one way to go about it, but I hadn't expected that to be the first responses to this thread..... There has only been one project that I have pre-stained, and that was a fireplace surround I built for a man who had
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   allergies. I pre-cut, pre-stained, and pre-lacquered the whole job and then installed it. Worked out great, but I can't imagine doing a whole house full of cabinets and shelving that way.....

   Isn't there a stain-accepting glue out there? My gosh, if not, I should invent it and become rich beyond my wildest dreams....

   -Ben

   i ....and here's a fact for you: The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is uncopyrightable.

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   Guest_ | Oct 21, 1999 08:08pm | #4

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   Ben,

   Hide glue supposedly accepts stain although I've never used it. There was an article in FWW about painting it on the entire surface of a piece to prevent stain blotching. You say you've been wiping the glue off. I've found waiting about 30 minutes until the runs are dry on the outside but still flexible works better. They just peel off with some help from a sharp putty knife (sharpened square like an ice skate that is). You might get more suggestions over in Knots.

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   Guest_ | Oct 22, 1999 02:07am | #5

   *Roo glue is melamine glue, you know the white stuff.So prefinishing is too hard? Here's another tip for smaller jobs: layout the piece and mask off the glue lines. It takes a little time,but a lot less than sanding after you started staining.

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   Guest_ | Oct 22, 1999 03:12am | #6

   *Ben,

   Here's a reply I posted recently on a very similar topic. I didn't feel like typing it over.

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   Guest_ | Oct 22, 1999 07:52am | #7

   *Tigger's progeny??????!!!!!LOLi Kanga'sprogeny. As in Kanga & Roo (kangaroo)Rich Beckman

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   Ben_Carnes | Oct 23, 1999 08:00am | #8

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   oOpS, rIcH....iT WAs 6:3o iN tHE mORniNg aNd thE cOfFeE hAdn'T kICkeD iN yET.....yeS, KanGa iS rIgHt.

   Now, name me a progeny from Pogo.....

   -Ben

   i ...and speaking of Pogo, here's a little factoid: When opossums are playing 'possum, they are not "playing." They actually pass out from sheer terror.

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   Guest_ | Oct 23, 1999 08:21am | #9

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   Pogo had progeny??? All I know of Pogo is "We have met the enemy and he is us," which is a bit appropriate here.

   My ignorance exposed,

   Rich Beckman

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   Guest_ | Oct 23, 1999 05:02pm | #11

   *Ben, I have always wiped the joint with a wet rag and never had a problem. We prefinish all our cabinets without a problem. I tried finnishing on site a couple fo years ago and didnt like it. Also a lot of our work the people are in the house which precludes the spraying of many finnishes.Rick Tuk

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   Ben_Carnes | Oct 23, 1999 05:02pm | #10

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   Ok, after building cabinets off and on for the last twenty years it still gives me fits trying to stain cabinets. We work like dogs (wait a minute, have you EVER had a dog that did a lick of work?) to get the gluejoints wiped clean, and we still get a cloud that won't take stain.

   This last project we built a bunch of oak cabinets and shelving that we matched to some furniture...very dark....and the hassles we had in the corners of the cabinets were unbelievable... I had told the guys to make absolutely sure we got all the glue off, and even
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   was pretty sure we were, but when the stain went on, the truth came out.....

   We generally use a yellow glue, whatever brand is at the supplier, I think they all have the same properties.

   Any help would be appreciated...

   -Ben

   i Question: If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown too?

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