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   Guest_ | Jun 29, 1999 09:05am | #1

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   KAS, I've been given two answers.

   1) "That's the nails we carry, that's the gun that takes the nails." (Why do you carry clipped-head only? "That's the gun we carry.")

   2) Capacity. More nails per stick of a given lenght.

   I've mentioned the Florida code change (after Hurrican Andrew) and got the "duh, we ain't in Florida" answer. I'm running a Senco SN60, and have had no malfunctions; but, I avoid Brand-X nails.

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   Guest_ | Jun 29, 1999 07:25pm | #2

   *KAS:I always thought the clipped head nailers allowed the magazine to be at a greater angle thus giving you a gun that could be fitted into tighter spaces. I only have one (DuoFast) and use it only for remodeling where access is usually tougher. Do manufacturers make guns that are identical except for nail heads? Thor

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   Guest_ | Jun 29, 1999 10:04pm | #3

   *Thor, Hitachi makes a NR83 A and an NR83 AA . The A shoots full heads and the AA shoots clipped head nails .They have different magazines and the 83AA is lighter other than that they are very similar.

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   Guest_ | Jun 30, 1999 02:26am | #4

   *KAS:I asked the same question several months ago on the Breaktime tools fourm but did not get an answer.I have found that when separating a well nailed board it is not unusual for clipped head nails to pull through the board.Just my $.02

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   Guest_ | Jun 30, 1999 05:57am | #5

   *KAS - Matt,I use paslode clipped head nails.Easy to get, and no problems with anything coming apart.What's the deal?Ed. Williams

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   Guest_ | Jun 30, 1999 06:07am | #6

   *How about the fact that the clipped heads don't have any plastic that flies when the nails are shot-although I do prefer the full round heads anyway.

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   Guest_ | Jun 30, 1999 06:30am | #7

   *Ed:I didn't say there was a problem with clipped head nails - I just said that the heads sometimes pull through - which you don't normally see with round head nails. I think either type is acceptable.Johnny makes a good point though against round head and that plastic that flies everytime you "pop a cap".My guess is Johnny's point, plus Georges #2 (more nails per clip) are the 2 main reasons clipped heads are more popular. I think the clipped head's are a little cheaper too?

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   Guest_ | Jun 30, 1999 06:36am | #8

   *I've shot thousands of clipped paslode nails. It's true that the nails will sometimes hold, and tear a hole through the lumber when seperating two that have been nailed together. I don't find that to be a negative, though. It shows the holding power of the shank, and gluebond.There are not that many instances that would cause two members to be torn apart, in the manner that you are speaking of. Usually, the forces are different, and the clipped head is more than adequate. If there is a nees for greater holding power, simply add a few more nails. The surface are wil rapidly increase, thus giveing the added strength that you desire. I've had to endure oldtimers telling me that handpounding is superior, and have had to defend the clipped nail too.ONe of my biggest complaints about seneco is the length of the strips. They are so long, that thye ineveitably get damaged before they enter the gun. Clipped heads would take up more room, and there is no more room in my belt!blue

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   Guest_ | Jun 30, 1999 06:57am | #9

   *Blue:Not exactly sure what your point was about Senco nail clips, but I do know that the framing sizes of the clipped head come in 2 length of strips.As far as not enough room in your belt, yestarday I was watching a siding crew work that I had hired. The old timer (a true craftsman) asked the young helper to borrow his utility knife. The helper said "Rick - you are always borrowing my knife. Why don't you get your own" The old timer's reply: "Why should I cary all that stuff around in my pouch? It'd be heaver than all getout, and besides, you got everything I need right there!"

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   Guest_ | Jun 30, 1999 07:08am | #10

   *Seems like clipped heads take up less room in my pouch?Just got a Senco 650, shoots clipped heads and slightly clipped heads, both paper collated. It can pound them,or just ease 'em in.BB

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   Guest_ | Jun 30, 1999 07:24am | #11

   *Matt,I forgot about the plastic.I had a spot nail framing gun when they first came out.I forgot that the "flying plastic" is why I stopped using them. Ah the memories......Ed. Williams

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   Guest_ | Jul 01, 1999 07:42am | #12

   *I use Hitachi framing guns that shot round head nails. When doing sheathing and siding the flush nailer works pretty well. We used to use Hitachi or the generic plastic collated strip nails. Now we use Paslode paper collated nails. No palstic flying into my eyes and face. The paper collated nails don't break apart like the plastic nails do. The nails are also cheaper. We still shot plastic coll. galvanized nails because I can't find the others.