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Anyone else seen this done?

pgproject | Posted in Construction Techniques on January 30, 2008 04:04am

Saw this in a hotel room this weekend. Have any of you done this before? Would you trust it? (the glass shelf is just glued directly to the mirror with no other support) What kind of glue do you think was used? (it’s clear)

Thanks

Bill

Edited 1/29/2008 8:12 pm ET by PGproject


Edited 1/29/2008 8:13 pm ET by PGproject

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  1. calvin | Jan 30, 2008 04:33am | #1

    Did you look real close?

    I would do it similar to the way I do corner shelves/seats in showers.

    Place the bottom mirror strip, then the shelf is siliconed to the top of that pc and "proped'' up.  Set the upper mirror on that shelf with silicone.

    When dry, where can it go?

    A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

    Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

    http://www.quittintime.com/

     

    1. pgproject | Jan 30, 2008 04:44am | #2

      The picture doesn't really show it well enough. There is a framed mirror on the wall, the shelf is absolutely glued to the SURFACE of the mirror. Shelf is shorter than the width of the mirror by about 3" at each end.???Thanks for the response.

      1. calvin | Jan 30, 2008 04:54am | #3

        Well then, as they say.......

        it's all done with mirrors.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

        Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

        http://www.quittintime.com/

         

        1. Piffin | Jan 30, 2008 05:46am | #4

          and smoke! What were they smoking?;)I can see that it is counterbalanced by the reflection in the other side of the wall. No glue, it just balances.
          However, to maintain the balancing act, there must be the exact same amt of decoration and foo-foo on the shelf on both sides so they installed an autobalancer. Take another look and see for your self. Every single item is exactly replicated !I know this because I looked into doing the same thing with piffen screws but it was already patented. What's a guy gonna do?I'll go back to my sci-fi channel now.... 

           

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          1. calvin | Jan 30, 2008 06:11am | #5

            What have you been smokin?A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

            Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

            http://www.quittintime.com/

             

          2. Piffin | Jan 30, 2008 06:22am | #6

            today? 

             

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          3. calvin | Jan 30, 2008 06:23am | #7

            I don't know, seems I remember the term "contact high" from way back when.

            Maybe you got that.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

            Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

            http://www.quittintime.com/

             

          4. calvin | Jan 30, 2008 06:25am | #8

            Speaking of today.

            How bout we get on over to the fest thread and get this coming summers shebang going.

            I'm getting itchy.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

            Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

            http://www.quittintime.com/

             

  2. ptp | Jan 30, 2008 03:06pm | #9

    Looks like a good place to display that bowling ball collection.

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    Matt | Jan 30, 2008 03:22pm | #10

    There is a coupla shelf brackets under the shelf - right?

    That double stick automotive type tape (3m?) sticks pretty darn good to glass.  I've used it to install towel racks on glass shower enclosures and they held well. 

    BTW - What did your DW think about it - or did she know about the hotel... ;-)

     

    1. pgproject | Jan 31, 2008 06:44am | #17

      No, no brackets- just 3/8 thick glass shelf glued to a mirror- shelf is appx. 6" x 48"Bill

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        Matt | Jan 31, 2008 02:49pm | #21

        >> No, no brackets- just 3/8 thick glass shelf glued to a mirror- shelf is appx. 6" x 48" <<

        You are right - that is quite amazing!

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    Sphere | Jan 30, 2008 03:37pm | #11

    Lexel and some CA glues could make that work.

    I have seen CA (like rearview mirror adhesive formulations) that would pull a divot out of a glass surface before the bond would release.

    There was also a time when certain hide glues were labled as "Glass chipping" IOW, the bond was such that it would chip the glass before letting loose.

    Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

    "Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"

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    Jeff_Clarke | Jan 30, 2008 04:44pm | #12

    Hotel room?

    So it's not THEIR stuff on the shelf ...

     

    Jeff

  6. wallyo | Jan 30, 2008 10:28pm | #13

    Wonder if they used this:

    CRL Loctite Minute Bond Adhesive permanently bonds non-porous materials such as glass, metal, tile, coated wood, plastics and nylon with superior strength holding power up to 3,000 psi. The combined primer and adhesive two-step application offers handling strength in 10 seconds, 60% full strength in two minutes, and a full cure in 24 hours. For best performance bond surfaces should be clean and free of grease. Simply apply a generous amount of primer to one of the bond surfaces and apply Minute Bond to the other surface (be sure of position exactly, since Minute Bond works so quickly). Excess adhesive outside joined surfaces can be wiped away with organic solvent. For years, major domestic and foreign auto makers have relied on Minute Bond to mount rear view mirror brackets to windshields.



    Edited 1/30/2008 2:34 pm ET by wallyo

    1. pgproject | Jan 31, 2008 06:48am | #18

      I figured it was the stuff that bonds rear-view mirrors (metal plate) to the inside of a windshield. I was just surprised it would be strong enough to trust in this application.To answer other questions:The DW was with me, and asked why we couldn't have done that in the bath we just finished.It was actually the hotel's stuff on the shelf, and it wasn't glued down- this happened to be a $$$ room.Bill

      1. wallyo | Jan 31, 2008 08:37am | #20

        Bill the product I posted is the "rear view mirror adhesive" just a lot larger bottle then those little bottles at the auto parts store.Wallyo

        Edited 1/31/2008 12:38 am ET by wallyo

  7. brucet9 | Jan 31, 2008 04:42am | #14

    I don't know HOW they glued it, but WHY they glued it was to protect it from theft. :)

    Try CR Laurence Co. 800-421-6144 http://www.crlaurence.com/

    If it has to do with glass or mirrors, they have it.

    BruceT
    1. wallyo | Jan 31, 2008 05:54am | #15

      Bruce
      That is where I found the lock tite product here is the direct link
      http://www.crlaurence.com/ProductPages/0/0144_3527.html?Origin=expensive stuff 39 some change for a 50ml kit.Wallyo

      1. brucet9 | Jan 31, 2008 06:21am | #16

        So you know about CRL too.They also have hidden clips to support 1/4" beveled mirrors that "float" out from the wall on hidden backboard. Prevents catastrophe if mastic doesn't hold the weight.Don't ask how I know...
        BruceT

        1. wallyo | Jan 31, 2008 08:34am | #19

          I use them for heavy glass shower doors, I have the glass fabricated and order the hinges handles etc from them. You have to be in the "industry" to buy from them but there definition is pretty broad as to what that is. Any contractor can register.Wallyo

  8. Planeman | Jan 31, 2008 06:24pm | #22

    It's the fine art of glass welding, that will never come off.

     

     

    Experienced, but still dangerous!
    1. BradR | Jan 31, 2008 07:56pm | #23

      In the same train of thought, anyone seen or used the 3m adhesive tape used to hold glass panels on skyscrapers? So cool I found a link to buy it even though I have no use in mind at all.

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        Sphere | Feb 01, 2008 04:19am | #24

        Same stuff that Dino sent with the Gdamm ez smart saw base he sells..better than vacuum I swear.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

        "Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"

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