Hello there,
I am looking for framing plans for a free standing carport roughly 20 x 16?
Thanks
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What pitch roof?
I'm pretty sure I could whip you out a set by noon tomorrow for $1 per foot.
Is that going to be cash or charge?
Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
Man you are slow. I'll do it for .98/sq ft;)
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I'm sure your .98 is a scam. You'll probably hit him up for hundreds of dollars for extras. My buck covers it all as long as there are only four posts and no foundation. No frieze either. And trusses. No section views. I will provide a framing plan though. Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
LOL, you're right. I was gonna bill extra for postage, printing, and engineering. You caught me.
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Heres my preliminary plan. The OP didn't come back and offer much insight, so I took it upon myself to let the creative juices flow.I got er done by noon as promised. Err...well it's noon somewhere isn't it? Congrats to the Pats....16 and O! Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
Can you insert some Simpson post mounting details there? What's gonna keep it from racking and falling over? I thunk you were gonna include everything?You enjoying the practice with Chief?
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Cmon....we are talking $1 per foot here...I can't be engineering it too! Yes, I like Chief. It has some annoying quirks. Some, I think might be bugs that only I get or it needs updating. Others are known bugs that they are trying to work out. I'm using their latest version and I know from Chieftalk that they have a long list of bugs already reported. I actually learned a very important lesson while delivering that plan. I learned how to create separate layers for the floor plan and framing plan. I've been meaning to do a simple drawing and do exactly what I did on that layout to understand the reasoning behind naming new layers....and now I know! My first plan, I created over 80 copies with new names before I realized what was happening. My second plan, I didn't create any copied plans with new names and I couldn't figure out how to create both a floor plan and framing plan. Every time I switched one, the other would switch too! Now I know why. I owe this OP a big favor....Oh....I don't know what's going to keep it from blowing over. Maybe the OP can add a couple of cables and turnbuckles. Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
There's more CP's over here than garages!! Just make two walls, one sloped lean-to roof and attach it to the house. Put one bare light bulb hanging in the center, a picnic table charcoal grill, park the cars outside and talk-story at the end of the day!!!!!Never fear the want of business. A man who qualifies himself well for his calling, never fails of employment.
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Carports are big here in TX too. If I hadn't moved here, I wouldn't have known how to draw them.They don't have so many posts here though. Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
Heck, you didn't even know what a carport was before you moved south, did you?I am trying to remember, but I think that when i was in Florida, the freestanding carports used steel columns about 3"D with a plate welded top and bottom to bolt it up to the beams and down to the slab
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No.All of us Michiganders were amazed that so many people would have these carports. And they don't have basements! Texas is weird....all their junk gets stored in their house. Storage units are big business around here. I'm gonna figure out how to get basements built.Their carports aren't built that sturdy either. There are a lot of them built just like I drew with no windbracing (shear). Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
Those are not carports - they are sacrificial offerings to the tornado gods! Like throwing the bad dog a piece of meat so he'll leave your leg alone.
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re: basements
Here in GA if you don't have one side open to day light odds are there won't be a basement. I moved here from IL where basements were the norm 20 years ago to realize that a lot of the folks don't mind just leaving stuff on the front porch, like the washer & dryer for instance. The way I see it depth of footings is the driving factor combined with the lay of the land. Water table is not an issue here but controlling the moisture & humidity might be. Can't remember the year but footer drains weren't required until relatively recently (maybe last 10yrs?) (and then no one seems to give them enough attention at the install). Sqft cost is still low for the sqft you get but it's still an additional cost on the project.
Johnbe liking my own basement
Here in TX, they'll spend 25k filling in a walkout site and when they are done, they'll have 50' of ugly foundation wall, some as high as 10'!!!! That's in the nice upscale subs that have rolling hillsides and views! It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
Hey there,
Never thought my simple request would generate so much activity. I can probably build a carport from scratch but always like to take a look at what other people have done. I also have a background in the Chief and 10 years as a network admin so the computer stuff is second nature. Doing renovations now and luv it, also I've lost 30 lbs. When I started looking for carport plans, not garage plans (there is a difference) I was surprised at how few are really out there. And I can usually find anything or anyone using the internet. So I was looking for a free standing (not attached to the house) carport (16' x 12') but had a really hard time finding this so I decided to drive around the area with my digital camera and have attached pictures of the one I think I'm going to build. I still question how it stands up if the posts are not cemented into the ground (my preference). I think there could be a demand for carport design, something modular, flexible in design, can be closed in if possible, diy can build it, and solid when finished. Any ideas, just curious....Edited 12/31/2007 12:24 pm ET by interflex
Edited 12/31/2007 12:24 pm ET by interflex
You're gonna get some grumbling about the size of your pictures.
You should resize them so all folks can view them.
six of them at that size...
why bother even grumbling???
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Rez will soon awaken from his slumber and most kindly resize them!
rez be the man....
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In case you haven't gotten it already - welcome to breaktime! Please fill out your profile so folks know what region you live in - local building techniques, materials, codes vary widely and you'll get much better response if we can be location-specific.
Posting pics - please keep them below ~150K. There people here who live out in the (technical) wilderness & all they can get is dial-up. Lots of ways to size down; Infranview is a popular freeware program. Just make sure when you shrink it we can still see it (keep the image reasonably big, just lose a bunch of bits).
OK, so judging by the pics you live somewhere kinda damp (love the moss roof look!) that isn't too bothered by earthquakes or hurricane-strenght winds (not a whole lot of bracing on that thing). Looks like they just used pier blocks & toenailed the base. You can get away with that in a lot of places; I prefer using a post base anchored in a few cu ft of concrete. Keeps the post away from the dirt and is still super strong.
I'd prefer to also use diagonal bracing from the posts to the top plates. Helps when you have a couple of intoxicated friends leaning on the posts; or when DW taps it with the car :-)
You will want to frame it in pressure-treated wood. Be sure to use the correct fastners! Simpson Z-Max for any steel ties, post bases, etc. Hot-dipped galv or stainless nails/screws.
Note some of the detailing (or lack therof) in the pictures. Good shot of water damage on the underside of the roof sheathing due to lack of drip edge or gutter on the right side. Funky plywood gusset at the peak in front looks like c##p and will start to delaminate fairly quickly judging by how damp it is there.
Fun project - pretty straightforward and quick results. Post the results!
Sorry to have made too much humour at your expense. Your OP gave the impression that you needed the sort of framing plan that showed every detail of how to build it. A framing course for free.
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Now I understand your confusion. Seems to me that $25k is ample budget to build a basement and then some.
I'm gonna figure out how to get basements built.
That can be tough, over there in Travis or Williamson Counties. Hitting that solid rock makes for tough sledding for building a basement.
Why there are almost none in my county still confuses me--first "bearing" strata is about 300' down. Anybody with a backhoe could build a basement (though, finding a water-proofer could be tough).
Now, if you get out on the Edwards Plateau, basements are not that uncommon--they're just not under the house (carrying labels like cellar, storm shelter, what have you).
Shoot, a crawlspace would have to be simpler in a lot of the Austin area over pouring slabs that can be 4-5' deep on one end.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Ok, I've resized my attachments for you guys with dial-up connections ;-)P.S. We don't have hurricanes here.
Hey! Someone built my plans without my permission! Can I sue someone? Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
"Shoot, a crawlspace would have to be simpler in a lot of the Austin area over pouring slabs that can be 4-5' deep on one end."That's what I think too! I saw a perfect walkout site over then in Westlake Hills getting one of those 10 high foundation fill-ins. It's crazy. The house was huge and all they had to do is site it ten feet back further and they could have had a 3/4 (or 1/2) basement for less money! Even if you didn't finish it (which would be crazy thought) it would still have been much cheaper and much better looking. At $350 per foot for finished area, that 1500sf finished basement would have been worth whopping $525k more on paper!At those prices, I'd be willing to carve a little bit more of the sloping rock out and use it for fill on the low ends! Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
it would still have been much cheaper and much better looking
Yeah, well, the question I have, for the tract builders doing that sort of work is, where do you get the budget for the 12-15 extra yards of concrete?
There's a huge "design" problem for me in that they get their plans approved "flat" and stick them on non-flat sites. I've a cure, but it's not going to make it through TBLR. (It may, though, through the Attorney General's office, backwards and unintended.)Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
The house that I was looking at wouldn't be described as a tract home. Luxury upscale would be a better description even if the workmanship is tract style. The builder certainly had enough money in the actual construction costs to add at least 1000 sf of walk out basement, free, if he didn't finish it at all. That alone would be worth the effort. I just think that no one puts basements in because no one knows how. Back in MI, no one knows how to pour slabs for residential and here no one knows how to build basements. Another thing they don't know how to do is put in brickledges so their brick can go down to grade. Every house in every sub has a foot or so of ugly concrete before the brick starts. It is so simple to add a basic frame box to the forms before you pour to lower the brickledge but obviously the illegals haven't taken that class! Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
they don't know how to do is put in brickledges
Only in custom home design (where you might actually see a wall section in the plan set). I never understood it, either, let in a 2x6 right around the perimeter, and you get a ledge, no sweat.
It's just more "flat" thinking, even though we are in a 3d business.
I don't "get" why even upscale buyers tolerate this sort of flat/tract thinking--if I did, I'd probably get rich fixing it.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
>I don't "get" why even upscale buyers tolerate this sort of flat/tract thinking--<
They don't know the difference or the options available to them.
Things have changed since you were here last.
A carport now is just a (usually) free standing aluminum screen room - without the screens.
Here in Pensacola we pick them up in Alabama ( only 40 miles) after hurricanes and sell them for scrap.
so do the hurricanes deliver them to you or do actaully have to seek them out?
depends on location of hurricane. east of hurricane-look north west of hurricane-look south north edge-look west
Carports are big here in TX too
Yeah, and you put a roof on.
Most are just welded up from whatever pipe is available, and V-drip roof panels tack-welded to the frame.
Some even pitch the roof panels!
My fave "farm-built" was made up of salvage yard pickups of "grapevine" columns. The "purlins" were over-lapped 8-footers, the posts 8-footers set into brick bases. Kind of funny how you could tel they built first, then measured.
My fave "redneck" carport was a stripped-down single-wide roof balanced (by gravity) on some posts driven into the dirt. Bungee cords to prevent uplift, too.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
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