Roofing gun or 1/2 crown stapler? What would you choose?
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My vote, roofing gun. Using SS ring shank nails and back off on the counter sink setting/ air pressure.
like reinvent said cept if its walls youre shingling you really don't need to spend the big bucks on SS unless youre by the water.
I used dbl dipped gavlies in my Max gun on the walls.SS on the roof.
By the way...if you wanna buy one of my Max guns I'd sell one to you.
I bought three I liked them so much and really don't need all of them anymore. Two is plenty. I only used them on this house.
Email me if youre interested.
Be well driven
andy
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Thanks!! I already have a roofing gun, But I have always stapled shingles on. I figure A roofing nail has a big head so it should hold well. I have found that if you need to do any kind of repair or shingle removal, A roofing nail is harder to clear with a shingle bar because the nail doesn't pull through like a staple or small hand drive would. Thanks again!!
You shouldn't use a roofing gun on cedar shingles! Nothing to do with trying to sell my guns at all. Don't care about that.
Just telling you that roofing nails are a real bad idea on cedar.
First of all you need a ring shank nail. A thinner nail.The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
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Hi!
Would use a staple gun? Say a 16 guage 7/16th crown staple?
Thanks!
Depends on what cedar shingles youre using. 7/16 seems way weak for "shakes" if thats what youre putting up. My guess is youre using Perfections or Striated...right?
Also depends on the exposure and how many courses youre going through. Two courses AND undercourse?
In this case longer is better. 7/16 seems to short for anything other than undercourse.
The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
island.... do not use a roofing gun.. you'll get too many splits.. and the heads will no weather well in the wet / dry cycle..
do not use a stapler.. unless you can get ss staples.... galv. staples will not last... the guage is too thin
best choice is a sidewall gun.. with HD galv ring shank nails & SS for the face nailing
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Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Mike, Could you recommend a gun? Thanks!
the Max gets good reviews..
but i like the Bostich CN66... we've got a 64, a 65, and the new 66Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Mike...you use clip head nails?
Around here I don't think youre allowed to.The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
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no.. the Bostich sidewall guns and framers are all full head nailsMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
I'll second the cn-66 for siding (and fences), I use it with SS nails for exterior trim also. Gotta love those ring shanks. It's got a depth adjustment right on the tip of the gun that works great and it never jams. Pays for itself in a day or two as well.
Had to go for a look after reading this. We built most of the houses in a neighborhood in Seekonk the first year I worked in const (1984) Swear to god, they look like they were built yesterday. no curl, no shingles falling out , etc. It is in a fairly swank plat, so I'm sure that the houses have been well maintained, but......
My point being that they were all 1/2 x 6 clap on front and red cedar r&rs on the rest. We did all our cedar shingles w/ staplers then (and now) 1-1/4 eg staple with, I believe a 1/2 or 9/16 crown. Still dead flat after 21 years. The only stuff we hand nailed was the last piece cut in on a row, and narrow sections where you spent as much time cutting in as nailing.Never had trouble w/ splitting, as long as you kept 1 inch or so from edge. My boss at the time was also a stickler for nailing within an inch or so of the exposure line. Probably why no curling that I could see. I like the Hitachi sidewall stapler ( mine stolen but soon to be replaced.) never had problems w/ jamming, etc.
My .02
Bing
Thanks,
I have often wondered how all those shingles I stapled on would look twenty years later!!
neither.
A roofing nail is for aasphalt shingles. Dessigned with a large shank to displace more wood for holding power against wind. But it will split every cedar shingle you nail down with it.
The narrow crown stapler will poke holes 7/16" wide right through the cedars.
Any fastner used for cedar has to be set such that the head just presses down on the surface of the wood to hold it in place wioth out denting into the wood or it will split it sooner or later. So shingle nails are thin shaked. if you do not hand nail, the guin must be adjustabel to set tjhe nail properly without overdriving.
'course, if you only want the job to last 8-10 years, use whatever you want. But for a lifetime jhob, do it right instead of easy. There are a couple other threads currently active now thjat have a couple proper guns recommended.
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Piffans dead right here. use stainless steel staples and carefully set the depth so you aren't over driving them. Use cedar breather under them if you aren't going to put this on skip sheathing. Plywood (or OSB,please tell me you aren't using OSB!) will cause cedar to rapidly rot if you live anyplace where it can get a real soaking rain.
Southern Calfornia for example is usually free of long soaking rain periods and dries out enough between rain that it's not usually a problem ( although I wonder what the long term effects of the high UV light exposure is..)
I use a Senco medium crown stapler and 1-1/2" SS staples. Make that $$ staples. The gun has an adjustable nose and the depth of drive can be set so that the crossbar of the staple is barely imprinted into the wood. You will be quite sorry if you have to take any shingles off or remove any staples. It would be much easier to get nailed shingles off.
Thanks for the info. I must comment that you have some really nice looking work on your web site.