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Does anybody have any experience with fescue? I’m interested in determining moisture content and weight per bushel. Also am interested in standards for fescue, if any. I’m talking about fescue seed, not forage.
Thanks,
Ted
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When I was teaching I had one to point at the charts and diagrams I was using. I bought mine but they are easy to make. Now, with the high tech laser pointers, you no longer need a 3 foot stick to make your "point".
Actually what you are refering to should probably be asked about over in the discussion group that deals with growing things. Just click on the Taunton Press Discussions: at the top of the page and you'll see the list of discussion groups you can access - I've not been to the gardening one.
However, there are probably guys here who have trampled enough greenery - and replaced same at their expense - to be conversant with the subject and you'll get your answer right here.
OR, if you eat that stuff or cook with it- you did mention seeds - then maybe the fine folks over at the cooking group can help. You never know where the next great spice or condiment will come from.
Ralph
*John,There are a lot of country lore and agricultural sites better suited to your question. You can find one at http://www.ytmag.com. Click on "Forums" and then "Country Talk".Your county extension agent is another possibility. Should have what you need or be able to tell you where to get it.
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Sorry. I'm new this whole computer internet thing. I'll try somewhere else with my question.
By the way, while I was here I read some posts. You guys are very helpful. This is a great site. And this Joe Fusco! Is he for real? Him and Fred going at it is better than the Sopranos!
The post by Lisa about the KU house was interesting. I went to Kansas State University for a year. It has a much better architecture program than KU. I was weeded out of the architecture program my Freshman year. Can't draw freehand. Also too conceptual for me. I'm more hands on. Should have went to trade school to be a draftsman. Oh, well. Thanks for the information on the other sites.
Catch you on the flip side,
Ted
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*That's all right. Fescue is a tough call. Moisture is hard to determine. Test weight has a significant effect on moisture. Also trash (stems,weeds,bugs) can effect moisture. The sample run through the moisture meter should be CLEAN. This gives as accurate moisture as can be done on a meter. Only true moisture determination is done in the air-oven. three 15g samples are cooked for 3 hours at 130 c. hope this helps.PaulDon't Mess With Texas
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Ted,
I'm sorry to have to air this openly, but Joe and Fred are alter egos within the same person. We don't know his real name, but when he starts these exchanges between his two personalities, the rest of us just sit back until it peters out. This has been going on a couple of years, now, and I think the longest session was 147 postings over a two week period arguing about whether to use expanding foam or old socks to close off chases between floors.
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Hey Ted, Fusco is real. He's a real card. Freddy is off too. Something about knowing all there is to know. Me, I stick to myself. If you know what I mean.
Fescue is a cool-season grass. It can be grown for seed or for forage, and both seed and forage. If grown for seed only, it should be drilled in rows to accomadate tractor wheels passing through the field without damage. Most farmers grow fescue as forage. Cattle feed on the fescue until early March. Then cattle should be removed to avoid damaging new seed. The seed matures and should be harvested about mid-june. Around 20% moisture. Anything higher will mold. Don't want mold. After the seed is harvested, cattle can be re-introduced gradually through summer. In fall, the fescue can handle a full load of cattle.
The fescue field should be top-dressed with nitrogen in January to help promote a good stand of seed. A soil test should be done to determine if potash and phosphorous should be added.
Dave
*Ted,K-State is the best school in Kansas. KU stinks. Now, dealing with fescue. Are you growing KY-31 or the new varities? We here at the syndicate have found problems with the new shorter-season varities. Hybrids do well in dry climates, but pure seed needs moisture. Clover, lespedeza, vetch, timothy, and birdsfoot trefoil can be added to your fescue with no problems. Brome is another story. Brome is not desirable in any fescue, whether short-season or not. If you have brome in fescue, the best bet is to burn the field and start over next year. Brome + Fescue = BAD! Have a good day,Vernie
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You might contact Oregon State University's extension office. They have several grass seed specialists. Or call Barenbrug Seed in Tangent, Or. 541-926-5801
JonC
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Tell me about fescue. That's what I'm asking, buddy. I need to know if my new crop will do any good this year. Fescue prices are so volatile, I want to hedge my contract. But I don't really know anything about fescue. Should I graze cattle on it, or keep them out. Thanks for all the help.
Ted
Support your local buddists!
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Fescue is a nuisance plant in some areas of the country where it is not native, but widely planted in suburban lawns then finding its way into the wild where it chokes out other native species.
But then again, I could be wrong.
Rich Beckman
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Hope this helps,
Vernie
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Oh come on guys tell the lad fescue is 14 lb/bu and meadow fescue is 21 lb/bu.
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Does anybody have any experience with fescue? I'm interested in determining moisture content and weight per bushel. Also am interested in standards for fescue, if any. I'm talking about fescue seed, not forage.
Thanks,
Ted