What is it that is going thru a contractor’s mind when he is pouring 2ft wide foundation right down to the top of a solid stone base without putting a sleeve in for plumbing lines beforehand?
Sure seems it would save a workload and expense.
‘Nemo me impune lacesset’
No one will provoke me with impunity
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"get 'er done"
Caught an episode of This Old House this morning, where the concrete guys placed foam blocks about a foot square and the thickness of the wall, right in the forms. Instead of having to go through a sleeve, they could just poke a hole in the foam. No need to suspend the sleeve in the form (although I've seen concrete guys hang sleeves on the ties).
Sometimes you have no idea where the utilities are going to go when you pour. I did that to myself, had to core my basement wall for a heat line from an outdoor boiler because I wasn't firm on the location of the unit. If I had put a sleeve in, it would have been unused anyway.
What is it that is going thru a contractor's mind
"Ain't on my plans"
"Y' dint say t'a"
"I sh'dn'ta took this &$^$$ job"
"¿Como? Yo no comprendo. Indentico en mi casa. ¿Ques es la problema?"
Inexperience, maybe?
Plumbing, electrical, other utilities rate sleeves too, most times. Did the drain lines go in, too>
Oo, oo, let me try;
What?
I do not understand.
This is not my house.
What is the problem?
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This is not my house
Close, the key word, which I misspelt, is "idèntica." Basically, "It's the same as at my house."
Language could just as easily be Cantonese or Arcadian or whatever--it's the subcontractors that are similar <g> . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
I'm project manager on a new house and had to talk the subs into blockouts in basement wall. Subs "We'll just drill 'em, no problem." Me "Wouldn't it be easier to have formworkers do it ?" Subs "Oh yeah good idea." The form company's contract actually included any blockouts at no additional cost.
Assuming it was a sub, it's like this... "not my yob". Ie: he doesn't have to worry about the utilities and such.
It's ok Rez...
our plumber's only charge us a small fortune to core drill....
I'm sure yours will do the same ;)
ok, out of curiosity. what would your plumber charge for a 4 inch hole drilled at the seam in a 2 ft thick poured concrete wall?
be inquisitive
'Nemo me impune lacesset'No one will provoke me with impunity
for a 4 inch hole drilled
Not as much as for the 4 1/2" hole 4" ID pipe wants <g> (lordy, lordy, would like to have had that shirt back <g>).Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
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'Nemo me impune lacesset'No one will provoke me with impunity
To be honest I don't know, we've never had to drill though 2' thick concrete, usually only 8-12" foundation walls or ..
Ok, just looked it up, From the people we use to cut concrete... they have a 4 1/2" hole at 6.50 per INCH of wall.. so that would run you... $156.00, however it doesn't meet their minum charge of $200, so it would be $200
"I'm glad I'm not the plumber." or "Uma Thurman, or Angelina Jole, mmm Angelina Jole, and Uma Thurman."
Stacy's mom has got it going on.
I've been watching some utility construction around our plant here. I get the impression that concrete boring has become sufficiently cheap and routine that they tend to pour first and ask questions later.
Watched a guy making holes for 8" schedule 80 through an 18" thick concrete wall. That's one heck of a bit he used!
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Okay, you guys are pretty smart :-)Can anyone verify what I heard second hand.It seems this guy was coring a floor in a high rise and as he cut through the rebar it curled up taking aleg with it. it sure would seem like that rebar would haveto be in an awful lot of tension to be able to do something like that
Likely it wasn't rebar but a post-tensioning cable.
If ignorance is bliss why aren't more people
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