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goin’ to kentucky…..

andyfew322 | Posted in General Discussion on June 23, 2008 06:39am

….. what do I need to know. ok so as part of a volunteer organization (ASP) I will be heading down to Kentucky for a week to work on poor condition houses. I am going to be one of the most knowledgeable in building there yes, there MAY be another smart one, but still, I’d like some tips any things, building techniques, tools that would be good. potential projects are roofs, flooring, porch building, trench digging, and of couse plenty of demo.

 

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    IMERC | Jun 23, 2008 06:41am | #1

    will you be able to post pics from there????

     

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!! What a Ride!
    Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

    1. andyfew322 | Jun 23, 2008 06:46am | #2

      I might, i'll se what I can do 

      Yes, my best friend is a hammer.

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        IMERC | Jun 23, 2008 06:50am | #3

        set 'em up and knock 'em down as the problems show... 

        Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

        WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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          G80104 | Jun 25, 2008 05:44am | #35

          The Kentucky State Engineering Exam:1. Calculate the smallest limb diameter on a persimmon tree that will support a 10 pound possum.2. Which of the following cars will rust out the quickest when placed on blocks in your front yard? 66 Ford Fairlane, 69 Chevrolet Chevelle, 64 Pontiac GTO3. If your uncle builds a still that operates at a capacity of 20 gallons of shine per hour, how many car radiators are necessary to condense the product?4. A pulpwood cutter has a chain saw that operates at 2700 rpm.The density of the pine trees in a plot to be harvested is 470 per acre.The plot is 2.3 acres in size. The average tree diameter is 14 inches.How many Budweiser Tallboys will it take to cut the trees?5. If every old refrigerator in the state vented a charge of R-12 simultaneously, what would be the decrease in the ozone layer?6. A front porch is constructed of 2x8 pine on 24-inch centers with a field rock foundation. The span is 8 feet and the porch length is 16 feet. The porch floor is 1 inch rough sawn pine. When the porch collapses, how many hound dogs will be killed?7. A man owns a Starkvillehouse and 3.7 acres of land in a hollow with an average slope of 15%. The man has 5 children. Can each of the children place a mobile home on the man's land?8. A 2-ton pulpwood truck is overloaded and proceeding 900 yards down a steep grade on a secondary road at 45 mph. The brakes fail. Given the average traffic loading of secondary roads, what are the chances that it will strike a vehicle that has a muffler?9. A coal mine operates a NFPA Class 1, Division 2, Hazardous Area. The mine employs 120 miners per shift. A gas warning is issued at the beginning of 3rd shift. How many cartons of unfiltered Camels will be smoked during the shift?10. At a reduction in gene pool variability rate of 7.5% per generation, how long will it take a town that has been bypassed by the interstate to breed a country-western singer?

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            Gunner | Jun 26, 2008 02:47am | #36

                Where do you find persimon and pulp wood trees in kentucky? Just curious.

             

             

             

             

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHE1dM4hYCw

             

             

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            G80104 | Jun 26, 2008 04:48am | #37

            Trigg county! Over by Tenn.KY. border.

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            Gunner | Jun 26, 2008 05:28am | #38

                 I've lived here several years and never saw a pulp wood truck or heard of a persimmon tree in the state. And what the heck is a "Statesboro house?" Your little dealy sounds a lot like the Mississippi Professional Engineer exam.

            http://www.thejokejukebox.com/jokes/1338.php

                I mean if we are busting stones let's get our jokes straight. You've got young Andy here asking about the state of Kentucky and your re-titling old stupid jokes that are slanted towards another state.

                Almost as lame as copying and pasting old painting and tazer stories as if they were your own.

             

             

             

             

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHE1dM4hYCw

             

             

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            G80104 | Jun 26, 2008 05:42am | #39

            Sorry that R- source is jadded, we just call'em as we saw-em......

            Fellow BT North of you sent me the link with a Double Dog Dare!

            State of Kentucky Residency Application

             

            Name: ________________   (_) Billy-Bob

                       (last)        (_) Billy-Joe

                                     (_) Billy-Ray

                                     (_) Billy-Sue

                                     (_) Billy-Mae

                                     (_) Billy-Jack

                                     (Check appropriate box)

             

              Age: ____

              Sex: ____ M _____ F _____ N/A

              Shoe Size ____ Left ____ Right

             

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              (_) Farmer

              (_) Mechanic

              (_) Hair Dresser

              (_) Un-employed

             

              Spouse's Name: __________________________

              Relationship with spouse:

              (_) Sister

              (_) Brother

              (_) Aunt

              (_) Uncle

              (_) Cousin

              (_) Mother

              (_) Father

              (_) Son

              (_) Daughter

              (_) Pet

             

             

            Number of children living in household: ___

            Number that are yours: ___

             

            Mother's Name: _______________________

            Father's Name: _______________________ (If not sure, leave blank)

             

              Education: 1 2 3 4 (Circle highest grade completed)

             

            Do you (_)own or (_)rent your mobile home?  (Check appropriate box)

             

             __ Total number of vehicles you own

             __ Number of vehicles that still crank

             __ Number of vehicles in front yard

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              Firearms you own and where you keep them:

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            ___ Number of times you've seen Elvis

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            Gunner | Jun 26, 2008 05:53am | #40

                Who was that? Kind of funny the person is too scared to post it themselves. Don't mean anything to me but it is counter productive to what Andy is trying to learn for his upcoming trip.

               Kind of like if he was going to Colorado and I popped off with. The states full of dilapidated hippy communes and lazy white men that gave away all their jobs to Mexicans who got lazy and let the Guatemalans take all the carpentry jobs.  I don't know if any of those statements are true, but some guy who's really funny that lives South of you dared me to say it.

             

             

             

             

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHE1dM4hYCw

             

             

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            G80104 | Jun 26, 2008 06:02am | #42

            Sorry, next time will post in the "Joke time again " area where everybody will know it's only a joke!

                 

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            Gunner | Jun 26, 2008 06:07am | #43

                 Good idea.

             

             

             

             

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHE1dM4hYCw

             

             

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            G80104 | Jun 26, 2008 06:19am | #44

            Only part I did'nt get was the ,

            "Almost as lame as copying and pasting old painting and tazer stories as if they were your own"

              Am I missing something?

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            Gunner | Jun 26, 2008 12:35pm | #45

                 It's an old imerc trick.

             

             

             

             

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHE1dM4hYCw

             

             

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            Gunner | Jun 26, 2008 05:56am | #41

               Almost forgot. I've been through Trigg county several times. Several times in the last few weeks even. I don't recall any pulpwood trucks.

             

             

             

             

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHE1dM4hYCw

             

             

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        Sphere | Jun 23, 2008 02:38pm | #10

        Be sure to let me know where ya are, I can deliver to ya the stuff I was about to send by mail.  How ya getting home? Flying or car?

        Lets see, Grant, Dave R, Gunner, Me and Stinky all live in a 2 hour radius of central Ky..one of us could hopefully meet up with ya.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

        Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

        "We strive for conversion,we get lost in conversation, and wallow in consternation. "Me.

        1. andyfew322 | Jun 24, 2008 12:25am | #12

          Perry County, KYI'm not sure if we are allowed to have outside visitors, but I can always ask. All by car. It will be TORTURE 

          Yes, my best friend is a hammer.

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            Sphere | Jun 24, 2008 12:35am | #13

            Oh Boy.  I won't be visiting ya any way, the county seat is Hazard, and it is RED NECK CITY!

            I've been in KY going on 4 yrs, never yet had the desire to go over that way, I get enough info from the news about "over there".  LOL

            Yer right, it probably will be torture..what did ya do to get sentenced to that punishment?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

            "We strive for conversion,we get lost in conversation, and wallow in consternation. "Me.

          2. seeyou | Jun 24, 2008 12:52am | #14

            the county seat is Hazard, and it is RED NECK CITY!

            Hazard is a little isolated, but they have bars, liquor stores, p0rn shops, movie theaters, and a couple of people of color - all the trappings of a modern cultural mecca. If you have to be somewhere in Eastern Ky and don't know or are not related to anyone there, Hazard is your best bet.

            There's a fairly strong old hippie contingent there and in Leslie Co. (Hyden). But, those old hippies are more influenced by the Copperhead Rd school than Woodstock. You're safe as long as you stay on the road and state your business quickly.

            View Imagehttp://grantlogan.net

            Who got Bo Diddley's money?

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            JeffBuck | Jun 24, 2008 01:31am | #20

            all I know about Kentucky is the best moonshine I ever tasted came from the Kentucky mountains.

             

            can't even remember Cherie's husband's name ... but I tell ya ... his hillbilly relatives could certain work a still.

            tasted ... practically nothing ... with a hint of mint.

            fresh outta the freezer ... each sip was like a blast of fresh winter air.

             

            could be 99 degrees out and you'd feel your lungs freeze over for a second.

            alsoluetly no hang over either.

            he did say they had a coupla different batches ... and he got the "family" batch.

             

            have had moonshine probably 50 times since ... never got even close to what he'd serve.

            But alas ... young love ... they got divorced and I lost my connection.

             

            Jeff    Buck Construction

             Artistry In Carpentry

                 Pittsburgh Pa

          4. seeyou | Jun 24, 2008 02:37am | #23

            Only 'shine I've ever had was all local to E Ky. Some was better than the rest.

             I think it's only about 3-4 hours from the northern part of E KY to the 'burg. You should be able to find some quality product up there fairly easily.http://grantlogan.net

            Who got Bo Diddley's money?

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            JeffBuck | Jun 24, 2008 04:51am | #29

            I think they make way different quality for import vs export!

             

            always said if we ever get enough land to blow something up ... I'm gonna build a still.

            it'll be legal ... personal consumption and all that.

            Jeff    Buck Construction

             Artistry In Carpentry

                 Pittsburgh Pa

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            MarkH | Jun 24, 2008 01:12am | #16

            Hey. Perry county isn't a bad place (mostly). I'm from Letcher county, as is my mom, dads from Breathit (bloody breathit) county. Now Harlan county,you probably would want to stay away from there.

            Edited 6/23/2008 6:12 pm ET by MarkH

          7. seeyou | Jun 24, 2008 01:23am | #17

            Now Harlan county,you probably would want to stay away from there.

            Prettiest "weed" crop I ever saw was 100 yards from the State Police depot in Harlan on SP land. It was "hidden" by a ring of iron weeds. I was surveying and had to cut a sight line right through it.

            At that time, the bootleggers mostly had drive thru windows. The bootleg liquor stores looked just like regular liquor stores except there were no signs and they were out of town aways. You had to be "introduced", but once that formality was over, it was business as usual and the prices were only slightly higher than here. I haven't been back down there for a while. http://grantlogan.net

            Who got Bo Diddley's money?

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            MarkH | Jun 24, 2008 01:25am | #18

            Yup, hasn't changed much.

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            Sphere | Jun 24, 2008 01:25am | #19

            Seems like a few counties over there have thier share of "strange" killings and drug deals..but I bet it is a pretty area with the Mtns. and deep hollars.

            I always remember Daryl Scott's song, "You'll never leave Harlan alive"  great tune.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

            "We strive for conversion,we get lost in conversation, and wallow in consternation. "Me.

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            FatRoman | Jun 24, 2008 03:00am | #24

            That sure was a great tune. Thanks."you spend your life digging coal from the bottom of your grave"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su06XlGI-w8'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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            Sphere | Jun 24, 2008 03:13am | #25

            I had not seen that vid. thanks for that, even after my misspell of his name..LOL

            I saw him live back in oh..'95 I think, down in Asheville, with John Cowan and Sam Bush..now there..there was a show! 

            Thanks again, geezeus Jerry Douglas is on the Al Gore diet!  I knew Jerry yrs ago ..the "Fluxologist"  Great guy.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

            "We strive for conversion,we get lost in conversation, and wallow in consternation. "Me.

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            FatRoman | Jun 24, 2008 03:32am | #26

            Jerry's the guy on the steel guitar?Funny, I landed on that one by chance, and after listening to a few other renditions by now, I really prefer that arrangement. Reminds me of a scene out of Joyce's The Dead.I saw in the comments that Scott plays at the family reunion each year. That ought to be a show, eh?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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            Sphere | Jun 24, 2008 03:55am | #27

            Yeah it would. I was just thinkin', out of all of us KY'ers ( oh that just don't sound right) us Kentuckians, there..I am closest to Perry Co. I am right up againt the Mtns beginning.

            Maybe a day trip out that way is a possibilty, take some goodies for Andy and, get him lunch with a big glass of cold sweet tea.

            What the hell, it can't be THAT bad. The next county over from me, about one mile to line, is notorious for "hood winks" and pretty shady characters..might be a nice change over there in coal country.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

            "We strive for conversion,we get lost in conversation, and wallow in consternation. "Me.

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            MarkH | Jun 24, 2008 01:06am | #15

            Perry county? It'll be fun, and you'll probably get some of the best food you ever ate. Relatively civilized there now, weren't always so.

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            Gunner | Jun 24, 2008 04:11am | #28

               I have worked over there a lot. Good place. People are pretty good. Take everyone as they present themselves too you. Not the way someone who's only read about them in the paper or heard tell from someone else presents them. Beautiful country. If I could figure out how to make a living there I'd move.

               If your working with the less fortunate then your sure to have a pretty emotional experiance. Nobody gets left out or last handouts more then American Indians and people of the Appalachian mountains. The poor are friggin poor there. I'm talking third string Salvation Army hand me downs.

                Your group has picked a good place to work. Go there with your eyes wide open and enjoy it.

             

             

             

             

             

            Ghey unicorns????

            http://www.planetunicorn.tv/

  2. dovetail97128 | Jun 23, 2008 07:58am | #4

    Things to bring:

    Knowledge, Tools, Skill, Willingness.

    Things to Leave behind:

    Ego.

    They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
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    Ted W. | Jun 23, 2008 09:42am | #5

    Be careful there. Terrorists like to kidnap Americans. Tell them you're from France.

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      CapnMac | Jun 23, 2008 11:33am | #6

      Be careful there. Terrorists

      Hey, that's no way to talk about Duane (well, not since he started cuttign his hair again . . . )Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

    2. DougU | Jun 23, 2008 01:47pm | #8

      Terrorists like to kidnap Americans

      Is there a lot of terrorist activity in KY now days? who'd a thunk it.

      I need to start watching more national news!

      Doug

      1. seeyou | Jun 23, 2008 02:08pm | #9

        That's "tourist" activity. He was using the GWB pronunskiation.http://grantlogan.net

        Who got Bo Diddley's money?

        1. mike585 | Jun 24, 2008 05:15am | #31

          Staple a to-do list to your garage door. Put your car up on blocks in the front yard and see if he stops.

  4. seeyou | Jun 23, 2008 01:14pm | #7

    Where in KY?

    http://grantlogan.net

    Who got Bo Diddley's money?

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    BillHartmann | Jun 23, 2008 04:52pm | #11

    "I will be heading down to Kentucky for a week to work on poor condition houses. "

    So you are going to fix up Sphere's house?

    .
    .
    A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
  6. DanH | Jun 24, 2008 01:39am | #21

    Yeah, Perry county is in eastern KY, up in the hills. I'm a little fuzzy but think it might be coal country, at least some of it.

    There is likely to be a fair amount of grinding poverty, but you may or may not come face-to-face with that.

    From my experience in the general area several years back, there are building codes and inspectors, but they're pretty easy-going.

    In fact, everything's easy-going. You'll likely be impatient to do something while the local folks in charge are just moving lazily along. Learn to take a patience pill and wait for things to be sorted out.

    On the plus side, they don't stand too much on ceremony, and will likely be more accepting of a "kid" doing the work than would be the case in other parts of the country.

    It is an ironic habit of human beings to run faster when we have lost our way. --Rollo May
    1. seeyou | Jun 24, 2008 02:26am | #22

      I'm a little fuzzy but think it might be coal country, at least some of it.

      Yessir - it's coal country. No middle class. Dirt poor or mansion on the hill.http://grantlogan.net

      Who got Bo Diddley's money?

  7. Jay20 | Jun 24, 2008 05:02am | #30

    I live in Northern Kentucky. If you were not aware of it there was a civil war that just finished between Kentucky and Indiana. The Indiana militia were throwing grenades across the Ohio River at the Kentucky Residents. Kentucky won. They just grabbed those grenades pulled the pin and threw them back.

    Eastern Ky is the impoverished area. Beautiful country side there. Most people are friendly. My daughter just finished 6 weeks down there working in a health clinic. Most areas because of the mountains you can't use cell phones. Only sprint is there, all others won't work. Buy a cheep one at Krogers when you get there. The legal economy revolves around Coal and Wood. The real economy revolves the stuff that gets smoked. It is my understanding that in the mountains there are some big pot fields that you don't want to come across. Stick to the main roads. There are a lot of people that go down there to help out. The people are use to that.  Take a generator many places you might be working at won't have electric. I used a Garmen GPS when I took my daughter down there to work and left it with her. It is worth having.

     

     

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    G80104 | Jun 24, 2008 05:20am | #32

    All I can say is, "stay away from the "Chips Ahoy!"

     

    Q. How many Kentuckians does it take to make chocolate chip cookies?
    A. Two...one to stir the batter and one to squeeze the rabbit.

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    ToolFreakBlue | Jun 24, 2008 06:30am | #33

    If you see one of your leaders holding shovels, and another leader holding hammers. Get the line with the hammers!

    TFB (Bill)
    1. andyfew322 | Jun 24, 2008 06:49am | #34

      oh yeah... I know all about diggin' in clay, lets leave it at horrible 

      Yes, my best friend is a hammer.

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